Whetu are u from Levin?

[[LvN]N3misiS]

I saw your pic and im fairly sure i know u ....

[whetu]

whats wrong with the PM system ;)

Yes Levin is my hometown.
I went to Fairfield School, Ohau School for Form1, Fairfield School for Form2 (Levin Intermediate sux0rs - long story) and then I chose to be a Nua boy... heh I'm wearing my Nua leavers jersey right now :D

[SecretSquirrel]

Bro, we all know him! He's the man.

You could always look in his profile to see...(I know it doesnt say Levin, its a little more subtle...)

[Binky Stunt Cat]

*sigh of releif*
least he's not in chch :p

[TheChosen_1]

Originally posted by Binky Stunt Cat
*sigh of releif*
least he's not in chch :p

hehe true, I would be running and hiding fdrom the vil Whetu!!!

[whetu]

whats that supposed to mean? :p

i'm a nice guy.. no really... :D

[[LvN]N3misiS]

yep i know u though u probly wouldnt know me ... anyway just goes to show u its a small world

[whetu]

ya never know.. you might be lucky :D

sooo how do you know me? I'm assuming youre one of plague028's mates OR you go to stinky pehu with one of my sh*tty little brothers?

OR maybe you were a youngin at Nua when I was 7th form... maybe.. just maybe... you could have been one of those little bastards that I took for peer support group

come on... drop a hint ;)

[[LvN]N3misiS]

hmmm i was 4th form when u were 7th (i think) ... i do know plague028... do u remember sam (aka kickass)?

[whetu]

I remember sitting in one of the IT rooms with the admin at the time, Mr Maxwell, watching in amusement as Sam tried for about half an hour to "format the partion" on a laptop before I gave up and told him how to use the mystical fdisk command... John (Maxwell) thought it was hilarious :D

[DiSCLAiMER]

whetu is a homeboy from the east side of levin

westside is the best

haha take that

hehehe

[whetu]

east side is the best pssssssshhhhh

lol thats true but i went to the west side college ;)

[whetu]

hehe a lot of you wont get it until you've seen ali g Indahouse

[varkk]

Originally posted by whetu
east side is the best pssssssshhhhh

lol thats true but i went to the west side college ;)

East side/west side in Levin would only be accross the road wouldn't it?

[Humantuckshop]

Originally posted by varkk


East side/west side in Levin would only be accross the road wouldn't it?


No roads in Levin - just dirt tracks. :p

[whetu]

levin is a very squarish metropolitan area, with a similar size to the taupo metropolitan area, it is seperated by SH1 going straight through the middle, and pretty much parallel to the main trunk line (rail)

by memory the definition between east and west side in levin is determined by the tracks... but then again levin homies are the same old stupid idiots you'll find in any town.. living on the east side but still running round yelling "west side mofo! tupac! tupac! yoyo wiggy wiggy!"

The main issue with levin is that it was a state town, it had Kohitere boys correction facility (where they sent all the little sh*ts who wouldnt behave) and it has Kimberley Mental Hospital.

Kohitere was closed and now sits fairly derilict on the outskirts of Levin. Kimberley is in the process of being closed, and all its patients will be released into the community.. (Levin has enough weirdos on the streets as it is) So in effect Levin is losing, or has lost its true identity. Couple that with the fact that the average age of a member of local council is 65 and you dont have much thought for positive change apart from increasing tea and crumpet evenings for mrs mavis and her friends.

the government was stupid and was deciding about opening a corrections facility for troubled youth... they could have refurbished kohitere for like 1 tenth of the cost it took them to build, from scratch, a brand spanking new facility in Palmerston North. Take a wild guess as to what our wise and very budget minded government chose to do. :rolleyes:

On top of that you have the social problems of modern youth - spoonfed all their bloody lives and are lazy sh*ts - either that or just generally neglected, so all the levin youth do is either become try hard homies and pretend to be what they see in rap music videos, OR they sit at home on their playstations and whine "THIS TOWN IS BORING! THERE'S NOTHING TO DO!" (which couldnt be further from the truth, there is plenty to do in Levin, the problem is its not readily accessible.. you have to actually put in some effort to go out and do something fun! I blame it squarely on convenience shopping)

OR they turn to booze. I have sampled the lifestyle of all three groups :D eventually I stuck with booze (albeit part time)... the people were a lot better

Another problem is lack of employment, especially for youth, I was lucky however and picked up my butcher's job relatively easy (I went to school and TaeKwon Do with my boss' eldest daughter)

umm yeah.. back on track... So now levin is primarily made up of two groups:
1) Lazy youth who all chime in on an hourly basis (along with the hourly fire siren) "THEEEERRREEEEESSS NOOOTTTTHIIINNGGG TOOO DOOOOOOO"
2) Lazy elderly people who will see any problem and immediately blame it on the youth.

*headline: Car stolen
*mutterings from that geriatric fart down the road: "its those bloody teenagers i tell you! good for nothings! why back in my day...."
*headline the next day: 45 year old caught for car theft
*mutterings from the same fart: "i told ya it was those bloody good for nothing teenagers"

So to sum it up, Levin is a hole, a typical victim of National Politics and the ever changing social scheme, and its not the only place suffering that fate. While a lot of residents are fighting tooth and nail, and very valiantly i might add, to improve the town, most people, myself included, have resigned to the common thought that Levin is fast becoming a retirement town.

But everytime I arrive back on the train at 6.50 sharp, I cant help but feel that I'm home.

The End. :rolleyes:

[KingJackal]

Originally posted by whetu
levin is a very squarish metropolitan area, with a similar size to the taupo metropolitan area, it is seperated by SH1 going straight through the middle, and pretty much parallel to the main trunk line (rail)

by memory the definition between east and west side in levin is determined by the tracks... but then again levin homies are the same old stupid idiots you'll find in any town.. living on the east side but still running round yelling "west side mofo! tupac! tupac! yoyo wiggy wiggy!"

The main issue with levin is that it was a state town, it had Kohitere boys correction facility (where they sent all the little sh*ts who wouldnt behave) and it has Kimberley Mental Hospital.

Kohitere was closed and now sits fairly derilict on the outskirts of Levin. Kimberley is in the process of being closed, and all its patients will be released into the community.. (Levin has enough weirdos on the streets as it is) So in effect Levin is losing, or has lost its true identity. Couple that with the fact that the average age of a member of local council is 65 and you dont have much thought for positive change apart from increasing tea and crumpet evenings for mrs mavis and her friends.

the government was stupid and was deciding about opening a corrections facility for troubled youth... they could have refurbished kohitere for like 1 tenth of the cost it took them to build, from scratch, a brand spanking new facility in Palmerston North. Take a wild guess as to what our wise and very budget minded government chose to do. :rolleyes:

On top of that you have the social problems of modern youth - spoonfed all their bloody lives and are lazy sh*ts - either that or just generally neglected, so all the levin youth do is either become try hard homies and pretend to be what they see in rap music videos, OR they sit at home on their playstations and whine "THIS TOWN IS BORING! THERE'S NOTHING TO DO!" (which couldnt be further from the truth, there is plenty to do in Levin, the problem is its not readily accessible.. you have to actually put in some effort to go out and do something fun! I blame it squarely on convenience shopping)

OR they turn to booze. I have sampled the lifestyle of all three groups :D eventually I stuck with booze (albeit part time)... the people were a lot better

Another problem is lack of employment, especially for youth, I was lucky however and picked up my butcher's job relatively easy (I went to school and TaeKwon Do with my boss' eldest daughter)

umm yeah.. back on track... So now levin is primarily made up of two groups:
1) Lazy youth who all chime in on an hourly basis (along with the hourly fire siren) "THEEEERRREEEEESSS NOOOTTTTHIIINNGGG TOOO DOOOOOOO"
2) Lazy elderly people who will see any problem and immediately blame it on the youth.

*headline: Car stolen
*mutterings from that geriatric fart down the road: "its those bloody teenagers i tell you! good for nothings! why back in my day...."
*headline the next day: 45 year old caught for car theft
*mutterings from the same fart: "i told ya it was those bloody good for nothing teenagers"

So to sum it up, Levin is a hole, a typical victim of National Politics and the ever changing social scheme, and its not the only place suffering that fate. While a lot of residents are fighting tooth and nail, and very valiantly i might add, to improve the town, most people, myself included, have resigned to the common thought that Levin is fast becoming a retirement town.

But everytime I arrive back on the train at 6.50 sharp, I cant help but feel that I'm home.

The End. :rolleyes:

*sniff*

That was beautiful man.

*sob*

( that AND the fact that I just wanted to quote something that long....
*evil grin*

You know, if you keep this up you'll turn into a KJ. For example, did you know that the VBulletin default limit for a post is 10,000 characters? Wanna know how I found that out??
*another evil grin*
( there's also a limit on PMs - only that's much smaller, so I keep running into that )
:p

[SecretSquirrel]

Originally posted by whetu
levin is a very squarish metropolitan area, with a similar size to the taupo metropolitan area, it is seperated by SH1 going straight through the middle, and pretty much parallel to the main trunk line (rail)

by memory the definition between east and west side in levin is determined by the tracks... but then again levin homies are the same old stupid idiots you'll find in any town.. living on the east side but still running round yelling "west side mofo! tupac! tupac! yoyo wiggy wiggy!"

The main issue with levin is that it was a state town, it had Kohitere boys correction facility (where they sent all the little sh*ts who wouldnt behave) and it has Kimberley Mental Hospital.

Kohitere was closed and now sits fairly derilict on the outskirts of Levin. Kimberley is in the process of being closed, and all its patients will be released into the community.. (Levin has enough weirdos on the streets as it is) So in effect Levin is losing, or has lost its true identity. Couple that with the fact that the average age of a member of local council is 65 and you dont have much thought for positive change apart from increasing tea and crumpet evenings for mrs mavis and her friends.

the government was stupid and was deciding about opening a corrections facility for troubled youth... they could have refurbished kohitere for like 1 tenth of the cost it took them to build, from scratch, a brand spanking new facility in Palmerston North. Take a wild guess as to what our wise and very budget minded government chose to do.

On top of that you have the social problems of modern youth - spoonfed all their bloody lives and are lazy sh*ts - either that or just generally neglected, so all the levin youth do is either become try hard homies and pretend to be what they see in rap music videos, OR they sit at home on their playstations and whine "THIS TOWN IS BORING! THERE'S NOTHING TO DO!" (which couldnt be further from the truth, there is plenty to do in Levin, the problem is its not readily accessible.. you have to actually put in some effort to go out and do something fun! I blame it squarely on convenience shopping)

OR they turn to booze. I have sampled the lifestyle of all three groups eventually I stuck with booze (albeit part time)... the people were a lot better

Another problem is lack of employment, especially for youth, I was lucky however and picked up my butcher's job relatively easy (I went to school and TaeKwon Do with my boss' eldest daughter)

umm yeah.. back on track... So now levin is primarily made up of two groups:
1) Lazy youth who all chime in on an hourly basis (along with the hourly fire siren) "THEEEERRREEEEESSS NOOOTTTTHIIINNGGG TOOO DOOOOOOO"
2) Lazy elderly people who will see any problem and immediately blame it on the youth.

*headline: Car stolen
*mutterings from that geriatric fart down the road: "its those bloody teenagers i tell you! good for nothings! why back in my day...."
*headline the next day: 45 year old caught for car theft
*mutterings from the same fart: "i told ya it was those bloody good for nothing teenagers"

So to sum it up, Levin is a hole, a typical victim of National Politics and the ever changing social scheme, and its not the only place suffering that fate. While a lot of residents are fighting tooth and nail, and very valiantly i might add, to improve the town, most people, myself included, have resigned to the common thought that Levin is fast becoming a retirement town.

But everytime I arrive back on the train at 6.50 sharp, I cant help but feel that I'm home.

The End.



*sniff*

That was beautiful man.

*sob*

( that AND the fact that I just wanted to quote something that long....
*evil grin*

You know, if you keep this up you'll turn into a KJ. For example, did you know that the VBulletin default limit for a post is 10,000 characters? Wanna know how I found that out??
*another evil grin*
( there's also a limit on PMs - only that's much smaller, so I keep running into that )




OMG WTF BBQ! Once or twice I have ranted long enough for it to be too much...in thinking about it, 10,000 isnt that many characters. Still doesnt help the youth of Levin though!

[evilgrin]

[p01s0n_p1e]

ya know, whetu's little story is just the kinda thing they would included in an english exam's comprehension section...

question 1: in which part of line 5 does the author use a word to describe the actions of the youth in levin.......

:D :D

[Stove]

Ya know, substitute the "levin" bit for nearly any other provincial city/town in NZ and it still reads pretty true (I'm in Rotorua). Were you bamilng National Politics (as in the party) or national politics in general? Coz if you were blaming National, I'd have to say that its not as if the OTHER crowd have done a damn thing in the past three years? Except make it worse?

[swiftynz]

wow what a random thread ;).

that quoting reminds me of that "how many overclockers does it take" joke in the old forums.
did anyone save it? it was classic!

[whetu]

Originally posted by Stove
Were you bamilng National Politics (as in the party) or national politics in general? Coz if you were blaming National, I'd have to say that its not as if the OTHER crowd have done a damn thing in the past three years? Except make it worse?

bit of both.. most of the downhill part came whilst under the governance of the national party... neither national or labour are doing anything fantastic for towns like levin tho...

HOWEVER since being a butcher I have become accustomed to not giving two tosses about politics. In this coming election, I'm going to vote Labour, why?

example:
*National has their three years, they make changes
*Labour gets voted in, they work hard for three years to undo most of national's changes and make changes themselves
*National gets voted in, they work hard to reimplement their original changes, undo labours changes, and add some more stupid bloody changes

I figure if a party gets two terms, their changes from the first term get to settle in a lot better to NZ life, and wont be the focus of undoing should the other big player be voted in... forcing progress can hardly be a bad thing

[Stove]

You forgot that National normally needs another extra term after a Labour Government to pay off their debts. Health alone is gonna be down a billion-dollar hole before the end of the year ( I am a pharmacist). My major gripe with this bunch though is their "I know better" attitude: Whatever they say goes, and if they don't like it, its all of a sudden illegal. If its not illegal its compulsory *LOL* I own a business that turns over $800,000. The Government earns about $200,000 from me. I earn $40K and do 60 hour weeks. And everyone I know in business wants out (but can't sell). If thats good for NZ, I need to up my medication.

[varkk]

I agree with Whetu here, (hmmm this thread has been really sidetracked) I think I'll go labour, stability is important, as is consistant leadership. Labour didn't seem to do much with fixing alot of problems during their term(Student loans anyone?) but I heard Pete Hodgson talk a few weeks back, and he made the point that just throwing more money at uni's but using the same funding model wouldn't work, they wanted to investigate a more optimal model that rewarded research rather than just bulk enrolments. They also needed time to implement it, before really increasing the fundind, he then basically said "watch this space" kinda likeall politicians, we'll fix it , more will come, vote me in again sort of stuff...

unfortunatly in this country we have lacked real political leaders/visionaries for a very long time...


hmmm discussing politics, I might go and get some marshmellows and watch the flames fly....

[Stove]

This'll be my last post on the subject (seeing as I am WAAAAY off topic, and I suspect also outnumbered *LOL*) But IMO the LAST thing NZ needs is strong leadership. Parliament is about consensus and conciliation, Strong Leadership is more commonly associated with Fascism. Last time we had a "strong leader" it was either Rob Muldoon or David Lange, and neither of those left the place better than when they arrived. The most enjoyable time, politically speaking, I have ever had since the start of my working life was after the first ever MMP election: we had a couple of months where NOTHING happened, coz everyone was negotiating a coalition. So the real NZers got down to work and had a BLAST, safe in the knowledge that a decree from Wellington wasn't gonna put them out of business overnight :)
And those guys who continually say the MMP caused all this crap have it wrong too: at least our votes matter nowadays. Back when FPP ruled, I used to vote McGillicudy Serious Party, coz it didn't matter

[Humantuckshop]

I think I'll vote NZFirst - that Winston Peters is the only one with any integrity. He stands up for what he believes in, and he won't let it go - just look at the Winebox inquiry. He doesn't want to waste any money by giving to these maori 'elite' he wants to make sure it gets to the maori who are actually in need. No more buying casinos or league clubs for you. :p


[not PC]
Also he wants to keep all these damn foreigners out of NZ - me too. I don't like refugees coming to NZ and then using all our healthcare facilities etc. Especially when it's at the expense of the NZ tax payers. :mad:
[not PC]

[mird-OC]

it doesn't matter who gets in, they're the wrong people for the job. we're damned if we do and we're damned if we don't. politics is controlled by popularity, popularity is created by misrepresented candidates spouting half-truths, and at the end of the day we all just end up with a bunch of imbeciles who think they know what needs to be done but have no idea how to achieve it.

democracy sucks. it's a lovely idea and it worked quite well for a century or so but it just doesn't suit todays complex world. i'd rather live under a dictatorship and have my taxes go toward paying a lot of money to a small group of professionals (who actually know what they're doing) to competently run the country.

it is actually possible to run a country completely efficiently with a tax rate of about 15%, but it's not likely we'll ever see it in NZ under democracy.

on that note, vote ALCP!! ;)

[whetu]

and all of this came from wondering if i was from levin or not :D

[farns]

I will be mostly voting for those Yogic Flyer dudes if they are around this year heh
BTW Whetu do you know Nigel Everton from Levin? I think his old man owned the abbatoir.

[whetu]

nope, but i knew chris everton, used to sit in maths with him and have in depth discussions about how the teacher was an idiot and how 6 form maths didnt relate to jack... and yup the everton family did at one time own lakeview, but last i checked it was in the recievers hands :D One of the evertons was the landlord of my works' building....

so yeah.

[shag]

Ok, I haven't read all this thread but i have a little and whetu's post on life in levin. So here comes my anti crime rant...

Crime... no matter how hard your life has been, In NZ there are still choices u can make . There is no excuse for stealing off others who are working their guts out trying to make a living while u are sitting on your ass complaining about not having enough money for yourself or about how boring things are in your town. In this country as a general rule, life is what you make of it. If you don't want to make anything of it then thats fine, it's your choice (ahh.. freedom) But it is not your right to take from others who are trying to get someware in life.

Screw the scum who take from those who try in the form of taxes for their dole payments that they receive year after year while physicaly stealing from them when they want a little extra $$$.

I would happly donate every cent I have to buy the bullets needed to sort those little f@#ks out and let those who want to live their lives do so in piece without having to worry every night whether their years of work is going to be taken from them by some prick who expects everything for free.:mad: Hell, I'd happily be the one behind the trigger too.

Sounds harsh? well unfortunately we only have so much time on this earth before we die and to me it is the sickest thing where little assholes who don't give a crap are taking the lives from people who are trying to live a decent life. Now thats not just in the form of committing murder in the name of money or self gratification. But also by stealing. What if they take a $10,000 car from someone and their insurance doesent pay out for some reason? That person has probably wasted 2 years of his or her life working for that sort of money. Thats a very significant part of their life taken from them that they can never get back.

Grrrrrrr!!!! Man I'm getting pissed off with those C@nts!

*Thinks again about wiring up the 10KV supply or the magnotron to the inside of the car*

There ends my drunken rant:rolleyes:

[Stove]

Originally posted by mird-OC
it doesn't matter who gets in, they're the wrong people for the job. we're damned if we do and we're damned if we don't. politics is controlled by popularity, popularity is created by misrepresented candidates spouting half-truths, and at the end of the day we all just end up with a bunch of imbeciles who think they know what needs to be done but have no idea how to achieve it.

Totally agree :)
It was Heinlein who said "Those who most desire being in politics are the very people who should be forever barred from doing so"
Makes a lot of sense really: the people who'd govern us the best are those who are too busy running thier own lives to bother taking the income cut that politics would entail.
Oh, and sorry for posting again after I said I wouldn't *LOL*

[varkk]

Originally posted by Stove

Totally agree :)
It was Heinlein who said "Those who most desire being in politics are the very people who should be forever barred from doing so"
Makes a lot of sense really: the people who'd govern us the best are those who are too busy running thier own lives to bother taking the income cut that politics would entail.

I agree here, I have often said that the basic flaw in any political system is the fact that they always seem to attract politicians.

Originally posted by Stove
Oh, and sorry for posting again after I said I wouldn't *LOL*

We'll let you away with it, just this once though;)

[Binky Stunt Cat]

has anyone actually found out any concrete information about National's Tertiary policy??
oh, and i'm voting Labour, mainly coz i dont want the Greens in a position of power.the sooner we have one party in control the better... (no pandering to special interest parties like the Greens)

oh, i'm a Green Hater by the way, if you haddnt guessed...narrow minded f00ls :mad:

[SilverPriest]

Didnt the greens try to ban water?
Or was that some myth?

[Gh0s7 L3mUr]

Originally posted by Stove
[B]
Totally agree :)
It was Heinlein who said "Those who most desire being in politics are the very people who should be forever barred from doing so"
B]

Hehe it was also Douglas Adams.

I wont be voting, as I firmly believe democracy is wrong. The majority or people are dimwitted idiots. I don't mean to be mean so I will give an example. The election when Winston Peters got like 20%+ of the votes, giving him the sway of power. Within three months his popularity had sunk to about 4% that meant that about 15% of our voting popluation had voted for him for no particular reason. Everybody who cared to look knew how he would act with sufficent votes, and he did. These people obviously got swept up by the retoric and voted for him without taking the time to look at the issues and intelligently way up the options.

Of course politians want power. In a totalitarian state we would have the exact same people ruling. So what's the better option to democracy? I don't know but I do know democracy doesn't work and doesn't provide or garantee freedom. Look at western countrys scince 11/09. We have Isralis hold western journo's for doing their job. We have The US making more and more unilateral desicions concerning foriegn nations. We have increased legislation enabling survaillience (sp?) on NZ citizens by the New Zealand government (BTW legislation that was supported by National).

All partys act the same when they get into government. And all partys act the same in oposition.

In conclusion: the earth turns; the sun shines; and I am going to L3#6 w00t :D

[Binky Stunt Cat]

yeah, tried banning it as Oxygen Dihydride, which is toxic and corrosive.

[mird-OC]

and at the end of the day they're all pretty much wanting the same thing. left wing, right wing my ass - they're all sitting smack bang in the middle. the only difference is the orientation of their egos.

which reminds me of a nzfirst advert i saw on telly the other night... if you've seen it, you'll know what i mean... cracked me up :D

Can We Fix It? Yes We Can.

[Humantuckshop]

Actually, I think I'll start my own political party and buy our Skyhawk back.


SkyHawk 1st Party

[Stove]

Originally posted by Binky Stunt Cat
has anyone actually found out any concrete information about National's Tertiary policy??
oh, and i'm voting Labour, mainly coz i dont want the Greens in a position of power.the sooner we have one party in control the better... (no pandering to special interest parties like the Greens)

oh, i'm a Green Hater by the way, if you haddnt guessed...narrow minded f00ls :mad:
The Nats have a policy of "you stay, we pay" whereby they'll start writing off debt for every year you stay in NZ in paid employment. And as to voting labour to get one party in power. . . . how old are you? Do you remember the 70's and 80's when we HAD one party governments? It was CRAP: coz there was no challenge to thier power at all. Not good. . . .
Greens would be OK if they actually concentrated on conservation and green policies. But this Luddite fight against anything slightly progressive is MENTAL. Basically they have taken over the old McGillikudy policies of the "great Leap Backwards". They reckon anything new is why we die of cancer etc, when really its just coz we live double the lifespan of our ancestors.

[varkk]

I agree with you about the greens, I think they should change their name to the bandwagon party or something, they seem to want to jump on every protest bandwagon and ride it just for the sheer thrill, I have never really seen them do anything about our enviroment, are they pushing for smarter energy use, cleaner power, protecting national parks or endangered species?

Where were they when that log ship ran aground spilling oil all over the coastline, down on the shores cleaning up seabirds, or even demanding that those responsible pay? no they were protesting at Waitangi(that is a political/social issue not Green). At times it seems that they only care about one green thing....

[Stove]

Yeah, Waitangi CRACKED me up. There they were protesting at Waitangi, when. . .
a) they didn't HAVE a Treaty policy yet
b) The Government they were protesting against was the one that they are a part of?
c) the PM they were protesting against (in their own government) had to be escorted onto the marae by an ACT MP *LOL*
d) They haveNo Maori MPs, and at last election, had none in a remotely electable list position. I note this time they have at least promoted a couple, but in their list you are better off if you are gay obviously

[p01s0n_p1e]

no way
the ocnz party would be way better.

-we'll take your mac, sell it to stupid dj's at high prices, then replace it with a free* unlocked amd xp 1800+ system

-if we think a company is charging too much for a pc, they get shot

-um, other cool idea

hehehehehe

damn that would be funny :D

[KingJackal]

Originally posted by p01s0n_p1e
no way
the ocnz party would be way better.

-we'll take your mac, sell it to stupid dj's at high prices, then replace it with a free* unlocked amd xp 1800+ system

-if we think a company is charging too much for a pc, they get shot

-um, other cool idea

hehehehehe

damn that would be funny :D

D@mn - you've got my vote :rolleyes: :p :D

I can just imagine it. Intricate and detailed online copywrite/electronic crime/etc policies. But sport/recreation/oudoors? What's that - some lame fishing game or something?
:D

[varkk]

unfortunatly the laws will be almost impossible for others to read:
"teh H4><1|\|g |3ill"

and so on...

[dustyslapper]

The greens didn't protest at Waitangi - some of their MPs did, a semantic difference perhaps, but an important one.

A) They don't have a policy with regards to Maori sovereignty - but what party does? Nobody except National & Act who are anti tino rangitiratanga.

B) They are not part of the Labour government - but they voted for them on confidence and supply.

----------------------------

My biggest problem with the Greens is that they have a clear idealogical base of enviromentalism, but very little else that concerns the domestic policy sphere.

There doesn't seem to be a viable party to the left that has a policy of free education for instance - except for the Alliance. They are only getting 0.3% atm, which is a waste of Laila Harre in my book.

[Stove]

Agreed: I'm (obviously) a right-wing voter, But IMO Laila Harre is a wasted resource. Seems to have a bit more brains than most, and is one of the few who is prepared to at least look at the other side of an argument.
An OCNZ party would be a good idea, I reckon :)