Dual Xeon motherboard

[Xeon]

Please Help me I am searching for a motherboard that can run dual XEON 3.06 with hyperthreading, It needs onboard lan, 5.1 sound 8 x AGP at least 4 gig dual DDR Ram....And can it run one CPu at a time in case I cant get 2 Xeons due to price.

Any help will be greatly appreciated

Thanks

Xeon

[CmdrChris]

that is going to have to be one hardcore server board, as they don't make any Desktop style Xeon boards.

I havent seen any server boards with 5.1 sound or 8x AGP, you might be out of luck.

[coolmhz]

The only I can think of is the ASUS PP-DLW

Have a look here (http://www.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=PP-DLW&langs=01)

[Xeon]

Thanks for the help, I'm trying to make the best gaming console in NZ, But will it run on only one Xeon CPU until I can get the other 1. Will there be a newer model of the motherboard with a 800 Mhz FSB, How hardcore is my cooling goin 2 have to be if I'm gonna clock the hell out of my CPU(s).

[Agent666]

the xeons are only clocked at 533fsb at the moment so maybe in the future we will see 800mhz fsb xeons but not for now anyway...

[ktulu]

Generally speaking... you can run a dual board with one CPU... but you'll have to reinstall windows when you put the second CPU in.

I can't see the point in running dual Xeons for a gaming rig. No games I know of will benefit from it (unless you're running it as a server).
Just stick to a vanilla P4 or Athlon.... your choice in video card will have more impact.

[Xeon]

I will be running as a server as well, its a pity bout the 533 FSB but i definately think that dual is the way to go as games in the near future will definately benefit, I think, from dual processes. I will only be building at the earliest next year so hopefully there will be a greater choice of dual CPU motherboards.

[Agent666]

Like what games?........ I hate to disagree with you but I am going to ......

the only games so far to give any good support for SMP have been the quake engines and well you only gain maybe 20% performance at the most......

as far as the future goes who knows but is it worth spending all that money on something that will gain you that small amount of performance.........

remember in most games THE VIDEO CARD will be the BIGGEST BOTTLENECK......... if you want higher frames per second having the fastest video card is where its at........ look at some benchs for the 800mhz P4s and you will see the bandwidth and CPU power is limited by even the fastest card out there at the moment........ therefore you will need one hell of a fast card to even start to take advantage of the dual xeons you are proposing as far as gaming is concerned anyway....... and chances are a server orientated board wont give it to you anyway.....

Sorry to rain on your parade but wouldnt want you to spend all that money on something you dont need.... but if you have your heart set on it then go for it.... in my opinion you will be a little dissapointed since as far as gaming is concerned its all videocard limited at the moment......... and faster CPUs wont scale up your fps.....

[NTBlowz]

OMG! a thread similar to this appeared on FM forum as well.. that guy think Matrox RT10 coupled with dual P4 will be a "kick-arse" gaming rig :rolleyes:

BTw Quake 3 only gain 0.5% more frame on SMP compare to 0.1% gain on AGP 8X..

A Dual Xeon 3.06Ghz will get it arse kicked by a single P4 3Ghz cos 1: SMP don't do **** in gaming 2. FSB/GFX is more important.

And a normal P4 have HT which means it can run multi thread with a single CPU.. no need to get another one

If u want to have the best gaming in NZ, u should get a P4 3.0C with i875P + 1GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM + Vapochill (cost $1500) + R9800Pro and oc to 4Ghz +.. that way u "may" have the "best" gaming rig in NZ

[Tiggerz]

Xeon, I can put that kind of system together for you. But the price would be well over US$10k all up. I am assuming that you are looking for fairly decent performance.

I could build a better rig using a single P4 C processor for you for US$5k that would have higher performance and make a much better gaming rig.

[IronH]

I agree with every one else here, a Xeon system isnt a good basis for a high performance gaming rig, for starters sever systems are designed for ultra reliability and stability at the cost of using every performance enhancing feature, whereas desktop systems arent as critical and especially in the enthusiasts market have heaps of performance enhancing feature available.
also the 800MHz FSB of the P4 will be more beneficial to games than a 533MHz FSB Xeon.
and also as pointed out - uber vid card is uber important for high fps.
imho - xeon = expensive and not as good performance as a cheaper P4 800FSB system when it comes to gaming.

[Xeon]

thanks to all your inputs I have decided to go with dual P4 2.53 Ghz processors and a Raedon 9700 pro, I would have liked to get Xeons as I have heard nothing but good comments about them and their performance but P4's would be a lot more practicle.

Thak you all

[Agent666]

aren't the only P4s that are SMP capable the xeons though?.... could be wrong but it was my understanding of it... hence the different sockets so you cant use P4s in dual boards?

[IronH]

Originally posted by Xeon
I will only be building at the earliest next year so hopefully there will be a greater choice of dual CPU motherboards.

those specs wont make the best "gaming platform in NZ" now let alone by next year. And if you aint gonna build until then its a bit of a waste trying to figure out what to get now, as PC technology advances very quickly. it is however a good idea to keep track of what technology is available and keep up to date so that when purchase time does roll around you have a good understanding of what hardware is capable of what.

[Evil-Elmo]

IronH is completely right.... keep track of the hardware, what is good and what is not. Then WHEN it comes to purchase make your decisions.

[imdying]

Saw this today. (http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=xeongaming&page=1&cookie%5Ftest=1&MSCSProfile=95385A1F52DEA1A229D5B3754205446410EF28 0F63E216919BB2A6AB559C889D65448551455365F99736D08F 94E109BAD7E7C98FB96FB79046F2188B74C6392B741B4B42C8 2DAABBD8B4D0E18C29A37DCEAEF01C10BA2D78200CEB6DA027 C1CE4460CB53BA9820C96D9AA98E22807800CFFEE77679A341 CCFDED09F307F009BA9636B553815FF327) on OCAU.

[Xeon]

Cheers for that man, that rekindled my beliefs in Xeons as a gaming system, I'm still thinking about the system and will only know towards the end of this year whether Dual Xeons will what i use. the only problem is finding a motherboard with the onboard features to make a decent gaming setup. If any one knows of a motherboard with onboard sound and raid controllers, SATA would also be nice please tell me

Cheers everyone that has had an input

[imdying]

People have commented that you are really wasting money, I think the information in that link really reiterates that. Check out bob(nz)s (http://forums.overclockers.co.nz/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8581&perpage=15&pagenumber=1) P4 4Ghz powered Prometia box (I love that pc). That'll eat your Dual Xeons in the gaming arena. Also, check out Lycan (http://forums.overclockers.co.nz/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3255&perpage=15&pagenumber=18)s 2.4c at 3.6. I believe he has cracked 20000 3D marks :eek:

[Wibber]

think of it this way:
it cost twice as much, it doesnt go any faster..

[Ragnor]

Originally posted by Xeon
Cheers for that man, that rekindled my beliefs in Xeons as a gaming system, I'm still thinking about the system and will only know towards the end of this year whether Dual Xeons will what i use. the only problem is finding a motherboard with the onboard features to make a decent gaming setup. If any one knows of a motherboard with onboard sound and raid controllers, SATA would also be nice please tell me

Cheers everyone that has had an input

Well they say faith is blind... :rolleyes:

Seriously how can you read that review and not think so if I'm not either:
running a server
database
doing CAD
doing 3dmodelling
.. on this machine

That getting Xeons is a complete and utter waste of money for something that is slower the a single processor system for gaming

[Rafiki]

Tyan make a workstation MB for dual xeons. It supports AGP 8x and has SATA raid. Its the Tyan tiger 266.... something. The problem is that it only supports DDR 266. Its also one of the cheapest dual CPU boards for xeons you'll find. About $750.

There isn't any board that I know of that supports DDR 400 or above (due to xeons only being 533 FSB).

[NTBlowz]

Originally posted by Ragnor
Well they say faith is blind... :rolleyes:


Same thing for love :rolleyes: