barton xp2500+ owners - what your highest clock speed ?

[mops]

if you recently purchased barton 2500+ i would like to nkow what was you highest overslock with what cooling and @ what voltage. I'm trying to maku up my mind whether to get 2500+ barton or 2600+ tbred-b.

[sparkles]

if you *really* want to have the highest clock speed, get the tbred-b.

but you can't compare the speeds of the processors by the clock frequencies, which is the idea behind amd's pr rating, and also the reason why mac owners laugh when pc users tell em that an 1ghz g4 is slow :p

i personally think that you'd be better off with the barton, the extra cache will help out in most apps.

[Soggy Chips]

My two mates got there 2500s up to 2.4 perfectly stable. :)

[mops]

to be hones i'm not after the higesst clockspeed.
I'm after most raw cpu speed (after overclocking) for my money.
hence if the barton woint do more than 2.2ghz the i'm beter off with tberd which will do 2.5ghz. but if i get a bartong 2500+ to 2.4 then it's all different story.

[Binky Stunt Cat]

you'll note that 2.2Ghz was attaned with a V7+.
Obviously with water cooling, or a better air cooler, one would do better.

[fatsanchez]

Originally posted by sparkles
and also the reason why mac owners laugh when pc users tell em that an 1ghz g4 is slow :p


but 1ghz G4's ARE slow :p

[prodigal]

2400 @ 1.7v - Stable

[swiftynz]

Originally posted by prodigal
2400 @ 1.7v - Stable nice overclock, what stepping and week is that?

i'm hoping and praying that mine overclocks well, i'll just have to wait and see i guess.

[SilverPriest]

I just rebooted to see if my barton was factory unlocked, surprisingly enough (to me at least) it was.
Running smoothly at 2349mhz, 12.5x188, 1.7v
Watercooled, cpu is at 29c crunching seti according to the cpu's diode....
My mobo is holding me back, this is one pearler of a chip :D
AQXEA 0322

[Hades316]

AQUCA 0311
Mines running at 200x11 24/7.
Haven't gotten round to trying higher, hope to soon, specs in sig.

[dustyslapper]

Originally posted by SilverPriest

My mobo is holding me back, this is one pearler of a chip :D
AQXEA 0322

That is indeed a beautiful looking barton (hmmm.... 'barton'. That just sounds wrong for some reason :confused: ). Pity about the fsb though - you should be trying to push around 210-220 with that ram.

Is it that a7n8x that is holding you back? You can hear the calls of the NF7.... hoowooooo.... NF7 v2.0..... hooow woooooow.... over 250mhz.... double pumped..... hooooooowooooo....

[SilverPriest]

Yeah, my A7N8X is rev 1.04, quite early....
I'm contemplating modding the chipset voltage, and definitely the cooling for it, see how much more fsb I can squeeze out of it.....

[mops]

Originally posted by dustyslapper
That is indeed a beautiful looking barton (hmmm.... 'barton'. That just sounds wrong for some reason :confused: ). Pity about the fsb though - you should be trying to push around 210-220 with that ram.

Is it that a7n8x that is holding you back? You can hear the calls of the NF7.... hoowooooo.... NF7 v2.0..... hooow woooooow.... over 250mhz.... double pumped..... hooooooowooooo....


what kind os fsb do you run now ???
i have the same board and i had to voltage mod the chipset to get stable 200fsb.... however it will not do anytinh more than that (well... i would further incerase the chipset voltage....)

[TooMuchCoffeeMan]

My stock NF7-S is happy to run above 220Mhz FSB with my barton 2500.


Right now (with 1GB) its sitting just a shade over 200Mhz x 11 giving me 2230Mhz total.

I can't remember exactly what the highest CPU speed is as I have been focused more on what I can do with the FSB.
I'd say somewhere between 2300 and 2400Mhz from memory.

[dustyslapper]

Originally posted by mops
what kind os fsb do you run now ???


220mhz with sami 2700 and a palomino 1700. New 2500 next week I hope :) I'll see if I can get the same stepping as you SP.

Abit NF7 v2.0 - a good swathe of them seem happy at 250mhz. Just a case of getting the right ram (though I'm actually pretty damn chuffed with what I have now :))



Prodigal: can you post the stepping and week code of that CPU? If you say 2400mhz at 1.7V then that is surely a stepping code to look out for

[swiftynz]

just got my AQXEA 2500+ today :)

seems happy at 2405mhz on 178mhz fsb (just passed test 1800 on prime). vcore is at 1.725 (mobo sensor reports 1.70).

i had a weird crash earlier at 190mhz fsb with lots of graphical corruption - and it didn't go away until i turned the computer right off. it was then that i noticed how bloody hot the southbridge was so i think i'll be putting my old northbridge cooler on it.

specs will be in sig once i update it...

[mick]

im running mine at 2200 at teh moment, was running at 2413 but it seemed a tiny bit unstable at times, i think i may need to increase the volts tho

205*11 i think, currently at stock volts (1.65)

[dustyslapper]

Getting a AQXDA 0322 tomorrow. I'm not sure which is better aqxea or aqxda - both seem to hit quite high on the OCAU thread. Fingers, toes, testicles - all crossed atm

[mick]

Originally posted by Soggy Chips
My two mates got there 2500s up to 2.4 perfectly stable. :)

with what cooling?

[mick]

Originally posted by prodigal
2400 @ 1.7v - Stable

cooling...?

[prodigal]

Originally posted by mick
cooling...?

'Aero Cool ' Fan , Artic Silver III , Antec Sonata Case ( 1 X 120mm Fan in the back )

Yep sure , where one one find the Stepping / Week Code :)

[swiftynz]

Originally posted by prodigal
Yep sure , where one one find the Stepping / Week Code :) it's written on a black sticker which is on the cpu itself so you'd need to remove the heatsink. here's mine if you can read the writing on it. 0322 = 2003 week 22 and AQXEA is the stepping.

[dustyslapper]

Running at 2200 with no dramas or stress. I twitched the volts up to 1.675, but am unsure if it really needs that as yet. AS3 still has a day or two to cure.

How full of sh1t it the NF7 temp sensor? Currently reading full load at 30*C - with alpha and vantec stealth. According to the nf7 this cooling combo competes with the best that watercooling can offer, lol.

[swiftynz]

Originally posted by dustyslapper
According to the nf7 this cooling combo competes with the best that watercooling can offer, lol. hehe yea, at that same speed (but only 1.65V), my NF7-S is reading 21 degrees load with the system temp at 17. that's watercooled but still way too low to be realistic.

[dustyslapper]

2310 (220*10.5) @ default voltage is failing prime after 10mins or so, 1.675 gives no probs. Not too bad at all :)

I've had played around at 2400-500mhz with some bigger volts, but to be honest my HSF isn't designed to foot it with the number of watts this thing is throwing out. With water and some guts I'm sure this chip would smile up to 2600 maybe.

Stepping = AQXDA 0322 (in case you missed it)

[mick]

can someone explain what the stepping of a cpu is, and how it affects how much a cpu can be overclocked?

at the mo ive got my 2500+ running at 2305 (200*11.5) - anything above 205fsb doesnt seem to work very well, havent tried increasing the volts yet (ive only got a tornado 11 and its running pretty hot as it is, about 35-40C idle)

waiting on some artic silver to lower that :)

[OEM Computers]

OK, I have one with AQXEA 0323 its the newest one I could find in stock, I will test it and let you all know what I get.

Also, just a note that I read somewhere to check the color of the core, the best overclockers have even color from one end to the other, also, ones with a puple tint are supposed to be the best.

[mops]

hey, oem computers !
i'm happy to buy a pre-tested cpu from you.
can you enable your pm or email me mops[at]ihug.co.nz ???

[OEM Computers]

if it overclocks well, it will be staying in my PC, but I can try to get the same stepping for you.

[OEM Computers]

Post @ 2500Mhz but won't boot in to windows

boot and bench @ 2334Mhz but failed on prime95 with 1.75V

seems stable @ 2250 default voltage...

I'm satisfied, definitely worth the upgrade from my XP1800 (which I had running @ 2166Mhz)

[SilverPriest]

OEM Computers, your sig, 4lines, now.
The rules are there to be read ;)
In open topic, at the top of the page.
I suggest you familiarise yourself with them.

[OEM Computers]

What are you on about?

where in the rules does it say anything about having a 4 line sig?

[whetu]

OEM,

I'm still clocking you at 6 lines... if at first you dont succeed, try try again.

Honestly, people do.not.care about your system specs, tell them once or when they ask, but having to scroll (and by scroll, i mean SCROLL) past your system specs several times in a thread is tiresome.

If you *really* must have them there, try removing some of the specifics like your ram timings

/edit: I see you've just adjusted the text size, much better thanks

[SilverPriest]

My apologies.
It used to be in the announcement set of rules which was over-written.
I've added it to the rules now :)

[OEM Computers]

Originally posted by whetu
OEM,

I'm still clocking you at 6 lines... if at first you dont succeed, try try again.

Honestly, people do.not.care about your system specs, tell them once or when they ask, but having to scroll (and by scroll, i mean SCROLL) past your system specs several times in a thread is tiresome.

If you *really* must have them there, try removing some of the specifics like your ram timings

/edit: I see you've just adjusted the text size, much better thanks

I'm working on it, but from where I'm sitting its 4 lines, get a bigger monitor dude :D

Besides, I'd rather have a sig with my specs, so I don't have to tell people....

[swiftynz]

OEM Computers, do you really need 1.75V to get 2250? my 0322 AQXEA does 2205 without any problems on default voltage so surely most of the newer chips would at least achieve that?

and yeah i agree that anyone with anything less than 17 inch needs a new monitor but there are some users that perhaps can't afford/justify one... thus we still need to be considerate to those people!;) (i was one of them until this year)

[OEM Computers]

OK, well I've been playing for a while now, and found something fishy is going on.

The CPU will post at 2334Mhz with default voltage, but I get blue screen hardware failure in windows while running prime 95.

so play for a while, get it to a speed that seems stable and I get an error on prime 95, bugger!

so, just to be sure its my CPU that is OC'd too far, I run it at default speed and voltage, and I get the same damn error!

so looks like I need new software to stress my CPU :(

Any suggestions?

[swiftynz]

don't blame prime95, something is definately wrong. are you sure your ram can handle the timings that you're trying to put through it? upping the DDR voltage should help aswell but involves more risk.

[OEM Computers]

um, well good suggestion, but the only thing I have changed is the CPU, so it can only be one of 2 things, software, or CPU.

I think I may have found the problem, its a little strange though, I think it was coming up with errors because I disabled my swap file, cos I re enabled my swap file and all is fine WTF?

Talk about wierd though, cos like I said, the only thing I changed is my CPU, I ran prime with the exact same system with an XP1800 @ 2166Mhz for 24 hours with no problems (no swap file)

How much volts do you run to get 2370? an extra .1 volt is no big deal, it posts all the way up to 2334 with default volts, but I thought I would just give it a bit extra to make sure its stable.

[swiftynz]

to get 2370 stable i need to set the vcore to 1.75 in bios, but according to the motherboard sensor it is actually closer to 1.70 (my NF7-S 2.0 seems to undervolts quite a bit). at 1.725V in bios (1.66 mobo sensor) the max stable is around 2360, and at default voltage the max stable speed is in the mid 2200's IIRC, can't actually remember exactly. :p

why did you disable your swapfile?

[OEM Computers]

Cos I have a gig of ram

[dustyslapper]

2400 at 1.7V is the mark to aim for IMHO. I get 2300@1.675, but well over 1.7V for anything higher.

*Sigh* Ahh well, it's not like I can actually tell the performance delta ;)

[Draizuh]

Ive just ordered a 2500+ and a GA-7N400 Pro Mobo. Any suggestions on Cooling and expected speeds i could get?

[swiftynz]

Originally posted by Draizuh
Ive just ordered a 2500+ and a GA-7N400 Pro Mobo. Any suggestions on Cooling and expected speeds i could get? asking on OCNZ for suggestions about cooling? GET WET. ;):p

on the stock cooler i'd say you could get 2.2ghz safely or 2.3ghz if you're willing to take the risk of upping the vcore. on high end aircooling you'd be pretty safe on 2300 - 2350mhz at 1.70V everday and your max stable speed would be around 2500 i'd imagine.

i run mine at 2306mhz 1.63V (as reported by MBM, cant remember what it's set to :p). at a guess i'd say the cpu temp is around 35-40 degrees under load (motherboard sensor reports 20 - 25). 2535 on 1.85V is as fast as i've had it.

[dumass]

Is anyone having bad luck trying to get a high FSB with there barton?

I recently got my +2500 (AQEZA), and it has troubles running @ 200FSB.

Currently solid @ 2250mhz/166FSB, but when I even try 10x200 (2000mhz), it cant even get into windows.

Its not anything else in my system, as i was running a xp1700 @ 220FSB all day everyday.

[AndarieL]

have you tryed upping the voltage a little, and playing with ram timings maybe..

[dustyslapper]

Originally posted by dumass
Is anyone having bad luck trying to get a high FSB with there barton?

I recently got my +2500 (AQEZA), and it has troubles running @ 200FSB.

Currently solid @ 2250mhz/166FSB, but when I even try 10x200 (2000mhz), it cant even get into windows.

Its not anything else in my system, as i was running a xp1700 @ 220FSB all day everyday.


Interesting case - mine AQXDA2203 is happy at 220. Only thing I can think of is your psu is running out of grunt? No reason it shouldn't work if your 1700 was good for 20-30 more mhz.

[swiftynz]

my AQXEA is ok at 220, but i havent tried any higher.

PSU is a possibilty, but check out the OCAU forums and see how other people have done with that stepping. i've seen some reports of newer steppings not liking speeds above 2200mhz, and you have to remember that cpus are binned for their max fsb speed as well as clock speed, and that 2500+'s are always going to be the worst. you may just have had bad luck. :(

[Tuvoc]

I have an AQXEA 0323

It is happy at 2100 (200 * 10.5) at default voltage, Prime95 stable.

At 2200 it requires around 1.75 - 1.775v to be Prime95 stable, and with the increase in temps that brings, the extra 100 mhz just isn't worth it

So 2100 it is, and because it is at default voltage on an officially supported 200FSB board (NF7 v2.0) I hardly even consider my system overclocked at all !

By the way, according to AMD's data sheets, there is a 200FSB version of the Barton 3000+ although I've never seen one for sale. It is 200 * 10.5 so I have an XP3000+ for the price of a 2500+ - excellent.

[dustyslapper]

Wow - those newer chips certainly don't seem quite as good as the old ones.

I had a look at the cpudb the other day and it looks like I got an above average chip. 2300 @ 1.7V is more than healthy :)

[swiftynz]

yep i'm in the same boat as you dusty, and i'm very happy as well. my 0322 AQXEA is perfectly happy at 2300mhz/200fsb with 1.66V as reported by MBM (set it 1.675 or 1.7 in bios i think).

when i turn the fan on the rad off it's like having aircooling so it's good to know i could do this speed on air as well. :)

[mops]

problem is.. i need it to do 2500MHz... is it doable ?

[dustyslapper]

At 1.95-2.2V you'll get somewhere damn close. Got water?


2300-2400 is a much more realistic target.

[swiftynz]

Originally posted by mops
problem is.. i need it to do 2500MHz... is it doable ? i got to 2535mhz on 1.9V (1.85 reported by MBM), but i don't think it was 100% stable. fsb was 220 so it could have been my generic memory crapping out, but i didn't do much testing.
http://forums.overclockers.co.nz/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8736 :)

[mops]

yes, i do have a good, custom-build water cooling setup.

[Chilled]

Originally posted by mops
problem is.. i need it to do 2500MHz... is it doable ?
Certainly is.

I've been doing 2400mhz on a 2100B for the last 5 months. Having seen the results of the latest 2500 Bartons decided that would be the go. The following is not stable (but that also depends on what bios im running too) but for an everyday oc 2505Mhz is the go.

http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~nickss/Misc/Temp/2557.gif

[swiftynz]

197x13 is my highest, not stable at all, even at 1.95V-bios (fails prime after 1 minute):
http://swifty.orcon.net.nz/files/2565.JPG

highest that could be stable on 1.93V-bios for me seems to be 202x12.5:
http://swifty.orcon.net.nz/files/2534.JPG
it ran prime for 10 minutes, and then i got impatient and went higher. :D

[dumass]

Well, still no luck with my FSB

I tried desperately to get 200x11 (2200mhz/xp3200 rating) but no go, even at 200x10. It seems my cpu just WONT do a higher FSB.

Its currently at 166x13.5 = 2250mhz @ 1.65x (1.632 reported in windows).

I think it will easilly do 166x14 = 2324mhz, i will try that in a couple of days when its burned in more.

It just doesnt like high FSB :( :(

[$3bill]

here is my overclock on a NF7-s ver2 at stock voltage. its been running stable for 3 or 4 days

[Fenix]

From what I've read around some 2500s OC real well while others dont OC at all... Me and about 4 friends are ALL buying new PCs for a basement LAN we are planning and we are all going to be running 2500s. I hope like hell my one is one of the ones that does OC well (Corsair DDR400 CL2s... Its just a waste not to use them...) but Ill know that when it arrives on Monday. :S I cant wait. Anyway, probably next weekend Ill post a list of all of our top speeds (me and one friend bought from paradigm in welly, most others bought from a local place in Orks) and see if we all manage to be lucky ones... If not Ill raid someone else's case and swap their barton. ;) Best thing is, nobody's gonna be raiding my case. (Xaser III. Good luck. :P)

[Valium]

my cpu aqxea is very happy at 220 and packs a sad at 230. not too sure if its the mobo or cpu though...

[patricklee]

OEM 2500+

Seems to run at 2300 stable, but I normally leave it at 2200 (xp 3200+), Im waiting for my new case to arrive, it has better cooling then my current case.


2500+ , 75frn2-rl, Kingmax pc3200

Patlee

[evilangel]

OEM Chip
11x / 214fsb
geil ram, timings set at 2.5 - 7 - 7 - 15

heres the result

[Fenix]

Put it up to 200mhz x 11 and running stabily at 2.2ghz. Dont want to go too high or Ill have to turn my V11+ up and wont be able to sleep at night. Everything else is stock. :S One thing, anyone else with a R9600Pro getting random game crashes on Omega drivers?