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OhNoOhYes
30-06-2002, 06:23 PM
My 1700 XP CPU just fried yesterday... due to a CPU fan failure...
Not only that, I bought a Duron 900 on the same day and replaced the fried CPU, it still didnt go. So I thought the Giga 7VRXP died as well. Now Im going to get a new mobo to test it out. If it still doesnt go, maybe the ram, Display also gone.
So, I recognised CPU heat protection would be a MUST in my buying consideration. So far for KT333 only Asus and Soltek have such function. I think I ll go for the Asus.
From now, I strongly recommend people uses only mobo with cpu heat protection.
The fact was I could have done nothing better to prevent a Fan failure... I used a Volcano 7+ and a 400W Macron PSU already.
Now Im typing this on my old K6 2 on MVP3. hahaha~ I hope I get the new one built ASAP.
remember use mobo with heat protection only, before its too late...
Antallica
30-06-2002, 07:01 PM
yeah, I have my Soltek DRV2 shut off when my 1600+ (OC'ed at 1900+) hits 65'C. Stuff manufacturers die temps I'll go by my temps :D
Deviant
30-06-2002, 08:02 PM
My BIOS supports shutdown (Shuttle AK31) but for complete fan failure it may not be fast enough, but I have a GlobalWin TAC68 dual fan cpu cooler, so I should be safe.
Binky Stunt Cat
30-06-2002, 11:02 PM
KFC - Kentucy Fried Computers???
Wibber
30-06-2002, 11:21 PM
I would b1tch to your supplier if the fan just died, not your fault, they sold a faulty product the destroyed your stuff, at the very least you'd expect them to replace stuff that came from them.
the **** blocked out *****
Humantuckshop
01-07-2002, 06:18 AM
Originally posted by OhNoOhYes
So, I recognised CPU heat protection would be a MUST in my buying consideration. So far for KT333 only Asus and Soltek have such function. I think I ll go for the Asus.
From now, I strongly recommend people uses only mobo with cpu heat protection.
The fact was I could have done nothing better to prevent a Fan failure... I used a Volcano 7+ and a 400W Macron PSU already.
You should have had MBProbe or MBM5 running, that way if the CPU fan failed you would know about it. Either that or you can use your ears. I personally have a GlobalWin CAKII-38 (all copper cooler with a 7K RPM Delta) the fan cuts out quite often, and using either MBProbe, or my ears - I can sort out the problem.
I don't know what you're on about with the 'CPU Heat Protection' either, most modern mobo's have that. BUT, just because they have the function doesn't mean it will actually work. The trick is to actually handle the situation before the CPU can overheat in the first instance. :rolleyes:
Deviant
01-07-2002, 07:19 AM
Originally posted by Humantuckshop
I don't know what you're on about with the 'CPU Heat Protection' either, most modern mobo's have that. BUT, just because they have the function doesn't mean it will actually work. The trick is to actually handle the situation before the CPU can overheat in the first instance. :rolleyes:
Some mobo's can read the internal CPU diode, and actually shut down the chip if it overheats like on the P4. This is almost instaneous unlike the thermistors many mobo's have. I think this is what he is talking about.
OhNoOhYes
01-07-2002, 06:19 PM
"You should have had MBProbe or MBM5 running, that way if the CPU fan failed you would know about it. Either that or you can use your ears. I personally have a GlobalWin CAKII-38 (all copper cooler with a 7K RPM Delta) the fan cuts out quite often, and using either MBProbe, or my ears - I can sort out the problem."
Yeh Ive got decent thermometers,monitoring the temps as well... was using the hardcano 2 for CPU temp and display temp
Unfortunately I left my PC downloading big files and went to sleep. when I woke up it fried.
What I mean about CPU heat protections are the power shut instantly when CPU temp exceeds a threshold. I know Soltek DRV5 and Asus A7V333 could do the job only.
If we left the PC running unattended (its not uncommon I think), no matter how good are u monitoring the temps, U couldnt avoid the drama like Im having.
It DOES happen so think about it before its too late people...
Wibber
01-07-2002, 09:13 PM
I never had a fan fail on me... not that it would matter, my duron just crashes after a while...
Humantuckshop
01-07-2002, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by OhNoOhYes
What I mean about CPU heat protections are the power shut instantly when CPU temp exceeds a threshold. I know Soltek DRV5 and Asus A7V333 could do the job only.
If we left the PC running unattended (its not uncommon I think), no matter how good are u monitoring the temps, U couldnt avoid the drama like Im having.
It DOES happen so think about it before its too late people...
Just about every single motherboard produced today has CPU overheat protection - that is fact. My KR7A does and my XP333 did. I think you'll find every KT266A and KT333 mobo will. But like I already said, just because it has the function it doesn't mean it will actually work.
Also get a motherboard that has the 'Shutdown when CPU fan fail' option in BIOS.
Stove
02-07-2002, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by Humantuckshop
Just about every single motherboard produced today has CPU overheat protection - that is fact. My KR7A does and my XP333 did. I think you'll find every KT266A and KT333 mobo will. But like I already said, just because it has the function it doesn't mean it will actually work.
Also get a motherboard that has the 'Shutdown when CPU fan fail' option in BIOS.
Not quite Humantuckshop, the two boards he mentioned are the only two I know that have PROPER thermal protection. All the boards you mention use a thermal diode underneath the CPU, and so if there is a fast surge in temps, the chips will fry before the diode even registers it. The NEW AMD specs require a bios and motherboard capable of utilising the on chip temp sensors, which will be able to shut the thing down before damage occurs, theoretically. KT333 is the first chipset to require this, but only the Soltek and the Asus actually DO the job as of yet though
SecretSquirrel
03-07-2002, 09:52 AM
Well I was all set to say ' Learn to monitor your temps instead ' ... hehehee
Anyway, doesnt MBM5 have all sorts of alarms you can set up if temps go haywire? Surely one of the options is to shut down the computer? If not, all it would take is a little email, and the next version would!
[edit] looking at mbm5, cant see if you can make it shut down, but you can make it run a program if it gets too hot/cold...perhaps download one of those little shortcuts to 'shutdown pc' and make it run that?
Just a thought...personally, I am able to run my little Duron without its fan, because the deathchimney picks up the slack and keeps the temps at 35 max on a hot day (running dremples for a while, makes the machine REALLY toasty)
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