Step to LOOK OUT for - XP 1900?

[Jess9]

Hi all,
Any one care to recommend a good stepping to look out for/grab, on an XP 1900??

OR, know of any good WWW sights that list/discuss the above??

I hear Starlyte can provide a specific stepping if asked (I just need to know what to ask for!!), any one been successful with this??


Regards

Jess

[whetu]

www.cpudatabase.com

good luck :)

[_N_]

why XP1900? it's only 1.6GHz, you might as well get a better CPU if you are going for a new one.

cause the XP2200 is only 20$ more for example,

and the XP2000 is cheaper than XP1900,
yes, that is right,


there aren't many XP1900's around, not many people ever bought them,

look here for good OCing cpu steppings:
http://www.cpudatabase.com/CPUdb/

[swiftynz]

yea why 1900? better to get a tbred b 1800 if you want to overclock cos i believe all 1900's so far are tbred a.

also on that note, anyone having trouble accessing starlyte's site at the moment?

[Jess9]

Hi,

I know the 1700 to 1900's use less power than the 2000 to 2100, so I assumed they'd have better overclocker potential.

A 1900 only because it was the fastest in this range, also MB is limited to a 2100 (CPU 6??) max.

SO sounds like 1800 would be a better choice then based on above reasoning and comments so far? Or is my logic BS??

Jess

[Geek4Life]

Originally posted by swiftynz
also on that note, anyone having trouble accessing starlyte's site at the moment?

Can't get it here. Last time I was there it said the mail servers had been having problems. Looks like the webserver is as well now.

[Jess9]

Hi,

I know the 1700 to 1900's use less power than the 2000 to 2100, so I assumed they'd have better overclocker potential.

A 1900 only because it was the fastest in this range, also MB is limited to a 2100 (CPU 6??) max.

SO sounds like 1800 would be a better choice then based on above reasoning and comments so far? Or is my logic BS??

Jess

[dust]

Your best bet is either the 1700 or the 2100, its pretty hard to get a JIUHB stepping on a 1700 and to my knowledge for overclocking the 2100 is the next best bet and the 1700 is only slightly better because its cheaper, for the 2100 look for the stepping AIUHB i know u can get that at www.magika.co.nz just email them to make sure.

[Ragnor]

AthlonXP 1700, 1800, 2100 seem to be the most popular speeds

You want:
1) TBred B (not palomino or TBred A)
2) DLT3C ... which means v1.5 default cpu voltage
3) JIUHB or newer

Note: 2 and 3 are parts of the product code on an AthlonXP

Remember:
AthlonXP 1700+ = 1533mhz
AthlonXP 1800+ = 1600mhz
AthlonXP 2100+ = 1733mhz

Your probably gonna overclock a bigger difference then the actual difference between them and you can probably tell from looking at the cpu database whether 2100's go higher then 1800's... If they do consider a 2100, if they don't just get the cheapest model.

[starlyte]

If your board doesnt actually support Model 8 Cpus (Tbred) and if you were buying a new cpu, Then XP 1900 is basically the only choice, This is the only flavour that has not actually been released as a Tbred - well last i heard anyway!, For a while the XP 1900 and XP 2000 were both avaialble as Palamino, But just recently the 2000's have changed over to Tbred for good.

The 1900's are still available, They are not listed on many sites though, Just because they are not listed, Doesnt mean they cant be got... Ask a retailer to order one in specially

The other option is to can that idea completly and go for new mainboard with a Tbred cpu :)

Going for the 1900 may be a waste of money

And on that other note.. Yes the damn webserver has the flu or soemething.... "should" be sorted now though

[Ragnor]

Good point.. What mobo do you have?

[Jess9]

HI

I've got a Asus A7V 133-C with 1007 bios installed. I've just done some digging and I agree it seems only to support model 6 CPU's (XP 1600 to 2100). I had assumed this covered all XP CPU's within this MHZ range. AAArrggg not so, good thing did not jumpin and buy yet!!

SO for the record, model 6 = Palamino only?

[_N_]

look at this:
http://www.a7vtroubleshooting.com/info/cpu/index.htm

your mobo will supoort tbreds with 1009 bios

[starlyte]

Originally posted by Jess9
HI

I've got a Asus A7V 133-C with 1007 bios installed. I've just done some digging and I agree it seems only to support model 6 CPU's (XP 1600 to 2100). I had assumed this covered all XP CPU's within this MHZ range. AAArrggg not so, good thing did not jumpin and buy yet!!

SO for the record, model 6 = Palamino only?

Model 6 does = Palamino

Next question is.. What mainboard revision do you have? According to the site from _N_ you can support it with revision 1.05. or higher - No guarantees though

To find out your mainboard revision, have a look between the PCI slots. There is a printing with the name of your Mainboard, next to it is the revision number. Note that there might be a dot after the number - it is important! "1.05" is not the same as "1.05.", the latter is newer

[swiftynz]

Originally posted by Ragnor
AthlonXP 1700+ = 1533mhz
AthlonXP 1800+ = 1600mhz
AthlonXP 2100+ = 1733mhz just noticed this, actually 1700+ = 1466mhz
1800+ = 1533mhz
1900+ = 1600mhz
2000+ = 1666mhz
2100+ = 1733mhz

[_N_]

i just checked out the asus cpu support page and it says that you can only go as far as a Model 6,
but look at what revision your mobo is, cause if it's the 1.05. & above (notice 1.05. with the dot at the end) then you can take a tbred,
but if it's 1.00 - 1.05 ( without trailing dot!) then you can't.


http://www.asus.com.tw/support/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx


also, don't know if this site can help you:
http://www.conram.com/asusa7v/news.shtml

[Jess9]

Hi, yes checked and the MB is a 1.05.

But the system is waiting to be upgraded. I have no existing CPU (AMD) so cannot flash the 1007 bios to a 1009. Can this chip be replaced to a 1009 instead?? Or would I need to borrow a 1007 type CPU then flash to 1009 in order to use a throughbred??

Considering the above, how much better is a throughbred b to the same MHZ palamino (that should work "out of the box")??

Would it be worth the effort??


Regards
Jess

[Volodkovich]

Depends on how far you want to OC. I can get a good 800mhz for free out of my 1700 Tbred B, but if your not going to OC, might aswell get the palo.

[_N_]

no, don't get a palamino, they run hot as hell,
tbred's run much much cooler compared to a palamino.


secondly, I think you'll be able to get away with using the 1007 BIOS, it's just that instead of saying Athlon XP 2100+ it will say unknown cpu 1733MHz in BIOS boot up etc, but it should work.

[Jess9]

Hi,

so to clarify have you fitted a throughbred b to this model of MB, with 1007 bios etc, or is your comment an educated guess?

If your right (and this sounds great) I guess I could then flash to 1009 and (fingers crossed) all would be well, i.e the MB would recognise the CPU etc . .

(I will start a new thread under Asus MB to see if anyone else has done this successfully.)


Thanks for all your help so far,
Jess9

[Ragnor]

Originally posted by swiftynz
just noticed this, actually 1700+ = 1466mhz
1800+ = 1533mhz
1900+ = 1600mhz
2000+ = 1666mhz
2100+ = 1733mhz

Good catch... in my post the 1700 should have been 1800 and the 1800 should of been 1900

[_N_]

>>so to clarify have you fitted a throughbred b to this model of MB, with 1007 bios etc, or is your comment an educated guess?


not on your model, but on another mobo, who's BIOS didn't support tbred's, it booted up say "unkown cpu 1733MHz", and it worked fine, the BIOS update only told the mobo what CPU name to display with a certain type of newer CPU.
then we flashed it, and it's been working fine ever since,


IMO, you can't damage the CPU if you don't have the 1009 BIOS, but instead you have 1007.