Mushkin PC 3500 256MB Copper Heatspreader [Archive]

TooMuchCoffeeMan

14-03-2003, 11:00 PM

Everybody is down on Geil lately, but from what I read, it needs the volts to perform, have you tried giving it a bit more juice?

I am about to build an NforceII system for myself so am really interested in the correct ram choice.

Consider me camping this thread.

X2C

14-03-2003, 11:09 PM

I've got 3volts up its butt and it's not stable past 190Mhz :(
I know alot of people are having problems with it...

What model/brand is your nForce2 mobo going to be?

TooMuchCoffeeMan

14-03-2003, 11:38 PM

Hey, thanks for asking... I am looking at the Epox 8RDA+ right now, but am open to suggestions.

By looking, I really mean looking, I have been scouring about 6 AMD & epox specific forums looking to see what common problems people are having, and how to overcome them.

Ram stands out as the number one important decision with the nforce2 boards, I have seen some crazy stuff go on with people spending up large on PC3200+ stuff, having it fall over much like Harls experience and then replace it with a couple of old sticks of PC2100 and run it sweet at 200mhz FSB!

You are right to be choosing carefully, there seems to be a lot of confusion out there right now and some very mixed results.

Volt modding for ram is looking interesting, a lot of people are finding it the key to stability and gaining higher FSB.

mird-OC

14-03-2003, 11:40 PM

it's good and it's awfully priced. honestly, it's not really worth the cash, but if you're after some wank factor and you've got money to burn * then it's a good choice ;)

* or you're like some in this forum who just can't keep their money in their wallet when they see something shiny.. teehee.

X2C

14-03-2003, 11:47 PM

I'm running a Chaintech nForce2 7NJL1 board and had lots of problems. Killed the first board within a week. They also seem to run hotter than other boards.
Now that there has been a new bios released I've tryed it but all it has really done it allow me to go to 250FSB.
I wouldnt recommend this board at all. I was looking at changing to the MSI nForce2 board but I'm gonna give this board a good run first. It seems to be running stable tonight.

X2C

14-03-2003, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by mird-OC
it's good and it's awfully priced. honestly, it's not really worth the cash, but if you're after some wank factor and you've got money to burn * then it's a good choice ;)

* or you're like some in this forum who just can't keep their money in their wallet when they see something shiny.. teehee.
Hehe... I really want something that will go very high at good timmings & not crap out befor it reachs the speeds its ment to do :(
I just seen this stuff around as well and looks good, OCZ EL-DDR PC3500... can see it having one hell of a price on it tho :eek:

SilverPriest

15-03-2003, 12:12 AM

I'm very very happy with my Mushkin PC3200
I haven't stressed it that much, only up to 160fsb @ 5-2-2-2
It's been stable as a rock, 2x256mb black series PC3200 on an A7N8X Deluxe :)
Kingston Hyper-X memory is supposed to be damn nice as well, but time will tell.
They have a good rep though.

Ragnor

15-03-2003, 12:22 AM

Corsair is still the best... it's got maximum wank factor.. but lets face it hand picked chips.. quality ram..

I.R

15-03-2003, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by SilverPriest
I'm very very happy with my Mushkin PC3200
I haven't stressed it that much, only up to 160fsb @ 5-2-2-2
It's been stable as a rock, 2x256mb black series PC3200 on an A7N8X Deluxe :)
Kingston Hyper-X memory is supposed to be damn nice as well, but time will tell.
They have a good rep though.

I've had my Mushkin PC2700 up to 183 @ 5-2-2-2 CMD 1 on stock voltage (stable). I'm so impressed I'm getting another stick next week.

X2C

15-03-2003, 01:40 PM

Thanks guys :)
I'm looking at this at the moment "Kingston PC3000 512MB HyperX 370MHz DDR Non ECC GENERIC DIMM CL2 VALUERAM" $245

So many to choose from :rolleyes:

Volodkovich

15-03-2003, 05:34 PM

where have you found that for $245?

soven

15-03-2003, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by Volodkovich
where have you found that for $245?

http://www.pricespy.co.nz/search.php?search=kingston

Volodkovich

15-03-2003, 05:45 PM

cheers. Hmm, from PCgear...maybe i wont buy some. Is it me, or is it also a little dodgy how it says "Generic DIMM, valueram"? i thought the valueram was kingstons crappy stuff?

Blitzkrieg

15-03-2003, 06:23 PM

my mushkin pc3200 is running well
2.8 volts and does cas2 3,6,3 at 206fsb fine

X2C

15-03-2003, 07:59 PM

Ok here goes a dumb question... Why is there a price difference between the Mushkin PC3200 Black & Mushkin PC3200 Blue?
Blue seems to be about $30 cheaper :eek:

Nevermind, found the answer

nasir

15-03-2003, 09:25 PM

CORSAIR!!! :D

I.R

15-03-2003, 10:53 PM

Dood are you okay or do you just like posting random crap??!?!?! :rolleyes:

nasir

16-03-2003, 03:36 AM

he asked what ram people recommend and i recommend corsair... what's so hard to understand?

soven

16-03-2003, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by Volodkovich
cheers. Hmm, from PCgear...maybe i wont buy some. Is it me, or is it also a little dodgy how it says "Generic DIMM, valueram"? i thought the valueram was kingstons crappy stuff?

Hey, I emailed him regarding the HyperX memory .I will be ordering one from them and see how it turns out. He replys email fast :d

(Quote)
Yes - that's correct. The packet is labelled as 'Kingston Hyper X'. It has a part number on it of KHX3000/512 - 512MB PC3000 CL2.

It comes in a plastic shockproof case with a manual in it.

Hope that helps.

Regards

Darryl Lennane
PC Gear Dunedin Ltd
422 Princes Street
Dunedin
www.pcgear-dunedin.co.nz
darryl@pcgear.co.nz

X2C

16-03-2003, 09:30 AM

I have brought quite a bit of stuff from him and he is really good to deal with. Always get a fast reply to emails and goods arrive well packed :)

I.R

16-03-2003, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by nasir
he asked what ram people recommend and i recommend corsair... what's so hard to understand?

er no he actually asked what colour Muskin people were running....... so it comes back to the whole random thing as I don't believe COSAIR is a colour of Mushkin ram :rolleyes:

nasir

16-03-2003, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by I.R
er no he actually asked what colour Muskin people were running....... so it comes back to the whole random thing as I don't believe COSAIR is a colour of Mushkin ram :rolleyes:

er no he actually asked what people recommended as he is getting rid of his geil ram... did you even read the thread???

I.R

16-03-2003, 11:43 AM

Yes I did read the whole thread and if you'd noticed that the post above your "random cosair" was actually asking what colour MUSHKIN people have. Just blurting out a brand isn't very constructive.
I'm trying to help you out (and keep these forums as constructive as possible). If you want to last a bit longer then try a bit harder. There is no point in just posting "COSAIR" when they guy has asked something else specific to a different brand. If you don't know don't post.
If you want to extol the virtues of COSAIR ram then sight specific example e.g. I got my PC3200 XMS to x fsb with these timings.
If you had read the whole thread you would have seen that Ragnor had already stated the COSAIR was a bloody good brand on the first page.

Any more discussion on mine or your comprehension skills is likely to end up with this thread being locked and that won't help X2C.

X2C

16-03-2003, 11:50 AM

Well i've been trying to get this Geil ram to run ok but it's just not working :(
If I turn the FSB any higher than 190 the ram goes ape, but if I knock the ram back to 83% (166) the PC runs fine... even run fine at 206FSB.

I thought this ram was ment to be able to do 216Mhz @ 6-3-3-2?

nasir

16-03-2003, 11:55 AM

ok, ill try be more specific... just lighten up a tad mmk :)

I.R

16-03-2003, 12:04 PM

Groovie ;)

mird-OC

16-03-2003, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by X2C
I thought this ram was ment to be able to do 216Mhz @ 6-3-3-2?
as always with oveclocking, your milage will vary. there are other things to take into consideration tho, such as slot placement, voltage, length and route of memory traces on your mobo, etc etc.

X2C

16-03-2003, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by mird-OC
as always with oveclocking, your milage will vary. there are other things to take into consideration tho, such as slot placement, voltage, length and route of memory traces on your mobo, etc etc.
Thanks for the info :)
I have my ram in slot 1, Voltage 2.9 or 3.0 but ah well... :rolleyes:
Cant win em all I guess:D

Blitzkrieg

16-03-2003, 02:16 PM

IM wondering about that mushkin stuff myself
coz they have the black and the blue in stock at starlyte
but nothing in the green line
i would like to know the difference between all of them
my stuff is green

i think i was reading the mushkin site
but its still not very clear
both brag about using the highest quality components etc
could be better written.

X2C

16-03-2003, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by Blitzkrieg
IM wondering about that mushkin stuff myself
coz they have the black and the blue in stock at starlyte
but nothing in the green line
i would like to know the difference between all of them
my stuff is greenHope this will help you ;)

http://www.zippeyy.dns2go.com/trademe/ram.jpg

H2gO

16-03-2003, 04:14 PM

if looking for top end FSB
based on own usage the HyperX from Kingston shouldn't be over looked IMHO

;)

MoNk

16-03-2003, 09:14 PM

Is there anywhere to get OCZ is NZ?

dam, even the "budget" mushkin looks sweet :/

$UBZERO

19-03-2003, 10:47 PM

World exclusive review of Mushkin EMS PC3500 256mb DDR (http://www.octools.com/articles/mushkin/pc3500/copper_yeah.gif)

http://www.octools.com/articles/mushkin/pc3500/copper_yeah.gif

Volodkovich

19-03-2003, 11:01 PM

well, just got my stick of Kingston Hyper-X pc3500 - damn sweet ram, no probs so far.

H2gO

19-03-2003, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by Volodkovich
well, just got my stick of Kingston Hyper-X pc3500 - damn sweet ram, no probs so far.

correction - U have my stick of Kingston HyperX
LOL

;)

keep us informed as to its performance would you Volodkovich

Cheers

:D