Need Advice - First timer here

[-xenolith-]

Hi all,

My first post here :) . These forums are a very good read. Love them.

Anyways I just wanted some advice on the equipment i would need and whether i should make any changes to what i have now.

AMD XP 1700/1800 (tbred - i should be getting one soon)
Asus A7N8X (none deluxe)
512 Mb 2100 (nanya)
60 Gb HDD
Lian Li PC 61 Case
Volcano 7 Cooler

One particular thing on my mind is the cooler. Is it good enough for overclocking purposes.

Thanks in advance.

[Elle T]

PC2100 for a Nforce2 board :rolleyes:

[Ragnor]

Welcome to the forums..

What Elle T is suggesting is that you get at least PC2700 ram.. I agree.

Why? .. Well with that nforce2 board your AthlonXP will be effectively be unlocked by bios so you can increase the FSB from 133mhz to 166mhz and decrease/increase the cpu multiplier till you find the highest stable speed

Further more since the PCI bus is locked at the 33mhz you can probably safely increase the FSB to much much higher.. You can get your running at 200mhz FSB you''ll need ram that's PC3200 capable.

Increasing the FSB (front side bus) as high as possible and "managing" (raising or lowering the multiplier) till you get a stable speed is the best way to go..

For example:

An AthlonXP 1800 runs at: 11.5 x 133.3mhz = 1533mhz

You could run that cpu at 9.5 x 166mhz aprox 1533mhz.. you'll get much better performance this way.

Hopefully your cpu will be able to increase the overall speed 500mhz or so..however you need to buy ram to suit the FSB speed you expect to run at for best performance..

[dustyslapper]

I'd spend another few pennies and get the v7+ cooler - much superior to the v7 as it's all copper

[princexxx]

the 7 wudnt be that bad depending on what extent the overclocking was...
7+ wud be better only you;d wanna run it on low settin all the time to keep from goin insane due to the whine they make...

[Elle T]

There is no point buying a V7 when for the same you can get a V9 with Speed Controller & triple clips.

Also you need a non conductive shim if your going to use a Volcano.

[princexxx]

Originally posted by Elle T
There is no point buying a V7 when you the same you can get a V9 with Speed Controller & triple clips.

Also you need a non conductive shim if your going to use a Volcano.

sorry i thought he already had these components minus the cpu.
look for sumthin better htan a volcano, they arent actually that satisfying...

and def get the shim!
and i think 7's come with triple clips now too...

[-xenolith-]

Thanks for the tips.

I already got the v7 and i dont think i will splash out on a new one just of yet.

So ill definitely get myself some new ram. Cant wait to try this out. Everything should be arriving soon:D

Oh yeah where can i get the shims for the cpu.

[-xenolith-]

One more thing i dont really understand yet is about voltage.

All i got so far is that voltage should be increased a little by little but not to exceed 10-15% of original.

So does this mean that i increase it as i go along increasing my fsb?

[princexxx]

Originally posted by -xenolith-

Oh yeah where can i get the shims for the cpu.

stylespc is the place to go mate, where i got mine from, have a look at ram and stuff there too and see wat they got u mite want while yr there

styles (http://www.stylespc.com)

also check out pricespy for good prices on ram and computer parts.

Pricespy (http://www.pricespy.co.nz)

[princexxx]

Originally posted by -xenolith-
One more thing i dont really understand yet is about voltage.

All i got so far is that voltage should be increased a little by little but not to exceed 10-15% of original.

So does this mean that i increase it as i go along increasing my fsb?


voltage doesnt matter too much, if u start off and up the coltage to say 1.85v then overclock for a while, keep upping the voltage bit by bit (althouhh not as frequently as u up the fsb) and you'll be sweet, i dont knwot oo much about voltage mods but theres plently of info on these forums

[dustyslapper]

Originally posted by princexxx
voltage doesnt matter too much, if u start off and up the coltage to say 1.85v then overclock for a while, keep upping the voltage bit by bit (althouhh not as frequently as u up the fsb) and you'll be sweet, i dont knwot oo much about voltage mods but theres plently of info on these forums


Bad advice - "voltage doesn't matter too much"? Nice one Brains.


Because you have a fairly average cooler you need to take it slowly and gently with that chip. The alu cooler can't cool your chip too well, so keep the voltage low. Also the 1.85V that prince is talking about is not safe with a t-bred chip - particularly with that cooler.

Don't raise the voltage above default unless it's necessary - push the chip until it fails on stock voltage first. Use prime 95 as a simple and effective tool - if it fails at a certain frequency then increasing voltage by the smallest margin at the same frequency may help. It produces a lot more heat though, so micro steps is the safest way, especially for someone not 100% sure of what they are doing. Keep an eye on your temps - if it pushes more then mid 50s then you may not want to increase voltage any more at all. Most users try and get low forties or thirties for their chips. Heat can cause your chip to fail a prime test also.


There's two types of prime stability - if it runs for 15mins or so then it could be worth trying a faster speed. Once at your fastest speed then try for a 24hr run without error - you may have to increase volts or cooling, or decrease mulitplier or fsb to get this to work. If you achieve this then you can declare your system stable, it may be able to run at a faster speed, but unless it's 24hr prime 95 stable then it'll eventually piss you off.


What ever you do don't bang it on 1.85 straight away. Thats what tards do.

[MrThc]

1.85V is actually quite high for a T-Bred, they run at lower default V than a Palomino\TBird. it is also quite early in the life of the 013u chips, so we don't know if they are gonna curl over like the northwoods are when going much more than 10% increase. I reccomend only increasing Vcore to if your oc is unstable, there is no point upping the juice if it isnt needed.

my 0.0108¢ (damn exchange rates!!) :D

[princexxx]

:eek: uhkay, everyone knows more than i do here so i'll keep my mouth shut...

[dustyslapper]

Originally posted by princexxx
:eek: uhkay, everyone knows more than i do here so i'll keep my mouth shut...

ROFLMAO.... love that avatar ;)