L3 #12

[Solid Snake]

Well, it was about time I posted this up. KJ will edit this post later anyways to tell the people dates and stuff.

Let's see. Well for a start we are now running the tournaments slightly differently. KJ and I will compile a list of games that work 100% fine on Windows XP only [since the majority people use Windows XP], these will be our tournament games. Right, so then we get about 20 tournaments or so lined up. Are we going to use them all? What ... are you nuts? Well, what we do is, we pick a random number, and as the tournaments are numbered, we pick 2-3 random numbers and those will be our tournaments! Of course, the tournaments will be known before you join.

Anyways, ... well I'm lazy and I'll post the list of games up later on today ... in the after noon.

Oh and I will finish this post when I have some sleep.

[KJedits...]
L3#12 will be kicking off Fridary afternoon on this February the 14th. There's going to be a big Worms tournament to banana -spam your way to fame, and once again I'll be tagging along my X-Box to take some of you down in Halo! You can register for the event, and check venue information etc on L3.net.nz (http://www.l3.net.nz/).

Dates: Friday February 14th - Sunday February 16th
Times: ?TBA(probably 6pm Friday)? - 5pm Sunday
Venue: C-LAN (http://www.c-lan.net.nz/)
Charge: $20
X-LAN: $20
( city: chch, duh :p )

We're expecting around 60 people, and you can expect to see us hosting plenty of BF1942, NFS6: HP2 and UT2k3 (with the new maps) action.

It also looks like [OCNZ].Weasal. may be showing of some modding styles live at the LAN - so if you're itching to rip a new blowhole in your case, it may pay to cruise down and have a look ;).

See you there!

[Binky Stunt Cat]

hmmff
XP only.....
what about we 2k users?
and on that note, who knows how to get 2k compatability mode running in sp3?

[KingJackal]

Originally posted by Binky Stunt Cat
hmmff
XP only.....
what about we 2k users?
and on that note, who knows how to get 2k compatability mode running in sp3?

What he means by that is non-DOS games, because games like Netmaze don't work in 2k/XP :(.

Oh, and that's how the tournaments are happening for #13, #12 is just going to have 3 different games that I've chosen.....

BWAHAHAAA.... ph33r m3....
( or not :rolleyes: )

ATM the venue is still to be confirmed - I think new owners are are moving into C-LAN, so C-LAN will probably be re-negotiating a few things.... ;)

[Solid Snake]

Guess I didn't explain that one to well now did I. Tournament games can't include things like Doom 1 for example, since they won't run properly in Windows XP.

I did originally have Simcity 2000 NT edition as a tournament but last night testing shows that it won't work in Windows XP. Damn.

[SilverPriest]

Ever hear of Doom95 James?
Nice and easy to network as well :D

[obilix]

Well, with all this talk of games for tournaments, make sure you don't forget this option:

http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=487

Looks like it could be a real WINNER!

Ob.

[cadmax]

well itall good as long as UT2003 is in there:rolleyes:

[.weasel.]

and quake 3 : generations... must have quake 3 : generations... ;)

[Solid Snake]

Ever hear of Doom95 James?
Nice and easy to network as well

Yup, but we're using Doom Legacy since it convert Doom into OpenGL.

[Solid Snake]

Well the Intranet server is getting it's hdd scanned and defragged now. I thought I'll just show you guys the current state of the intranet.

Oh yeah, it's Windows ME and it has had an uptime of an entire L3 at the moment, and that's all that matters to.

[CrazySurfaNZ]

Good work ss the intranet looks damn wicked, love the forums and the voting poll thing on the right hand side.

[cadmax]

looking good :cool:

[Solid Snake]

I thought I might as well pimp the new L3 website before it gets online.

[KingJackal]

L3#12 will be kicking off Fridary afternoon on this February the 14th. There's going to be a big Worms tournament to banana -spam your way to fame, and once again I'll be tagging along my X-Box to take some of you down in Halo! You can register for the event, and check venue information etc on L3.net.nz (http://www.l3.net.nz/).

Dates: Friday February 14th - Sunday February 16th
Times: ?TBA(probably 6pm Friday)? - 5pm Sunday
Venue: C-LAN (http://www.c-lan.net.nz/)
Charge: $20
X-LAN: $20
( city: chch, duh :p )

We're expecting around 60 people, and you can expect to see us hosting plenty of BF1942, NFS6: HP2 and UT2k3 (with the new maps) action.

It also looks like [OCNZ].Weasal. may be showing of some modding styles live at the LAN - so if you're itching to rip a new blowhole in your case, it may pay to cruise down and have a look ;).

See you there!

[.weasel.]

its alright KJ, i can pimp all by myself ;)

you guys and gals are in for a treat this l3

ever wanted to cut a hole in a case or generally mod the hell out of someones case... well then its gonna be your lucky day :)

i also plan to be the proud inventor of the worlds smallest fan controller... if it works, that is :D

and some other things i cant tell you about yet...

[oOo Dragon oOo]

Awww that sounds cool. I dont suppose youll be doin that at 13 as well?

[CmdrChris]

ok guys its official.

I will be the official ambassador for Auckland at L3 #12.

Going to be there about 9:30ish on Saturday night, only for a couple of hours (unfortunately due to other plans). Look forward to meeting you guys and kicking some ass on the X-Box..

[.weasel.]

oOo Dragon oOo - unless im killed or serously maimed in the up and coming weeks, ill be going to L3 13 and as many more L3's as im able to :D

[|nferno]

go on show ur real suport weasol get "l3 vetrin " or "l3 w[h]ore " or "l3 4 life " tatoed on your forhead

everyones doing it :]

[oOo Dragon oOo]

Originally posted by .weasel.
oOo Dragon oOo - unless im killed or serously maimed in the up and coming weeks, ill be going to L3 13 and as many more L3's as im able to :D

So does that mean you will be showing how to mod cases? Can you do mine? that would be nice. No? You sure? ok dont. I go sulk.


Anyone else want to join in this converstation with myself?

[cadmax]

i'm going :)
it will be my first and i get to see all of u :) this will be fun :)
my tag @ L3 #12: [Pike]CAD_MAX

so i'll see u all there :p

[Binky Stunt Cat]

double clanner!! :p
i'll make a breif appearance on the saturday evening, bringing in a hdd and some cds...

[Eagle32]

Originally posted by CmdrChris
ok guys its official.

I will be the official ambassador for Auckland at L3 #12.

Going to be there about 9:30ish on Saturday night, only for a couple of hours (unfortunately due to other plans). Look forward to meeting you guys and kicking some ass on the X-Box..

Sweet. Well with the case badges to pickup, C&C:Generals imminent availability for some lan action and a visit from CC how could i not attend? :D

[Binky Stunt Cat]

wadda you mean "imminent"? :D

[Sumo]

Well thanks to Valentine's Day, and purchasing a new toy today (4X4 Toymota Smurf) i'll be there for one night only....

Yes folks get in quick for this one night only performance of the famed Belly of Sumo..... sh*t sorry KJ just scared away a horde of L3ers..:D

[.weasel.]

originally postes by |nfernal
go on show ur real suport weasol get "l3 vetrin " or "l3 w[h]ore " or "l3 4 life " tatoed on your forhead

no thanks "nobody someday" sums me up quite well, and its not tattoed on my forehead, but elsewere ;)

originally posted by o0o Dragon o0o
So does that mean you will be showing how to mod cases? Can you do mine? that would be nice. No? You sure? ok dont. I go sulk.


Anyone else want to join in this converstation with myself?

yup, but only if i get time to.
dont worry about that talking to yourself thing, |nfernal has some great conversations with himself.... :D

[Solid Snake]

double clanner!! Your one to talk Binky. I remember the conversation when we talked about the WarCraft 3 clan match.

[Binky Stunt Cat]

hehehe
that was just coz they were outnumbered.

[Elle T]

I shall be attending Friday night - Saturday Lunch time only :(

Wasn't going to show at all, because of lack of cash & also as my system crashes while playing everything including Worms but i'll do so surgery on it tomorrow.

My excuse is that i have to see a few ppl & work out some part related details.

[|nferno]

i was testing how dumb u r weasol =]
and as for l3 ill be there friday and saterday till lateish with a xp2100 512 mb drr 2700 server :D :cool: (for wat ever u want to run )

[.weasel.]

nobody can play dumb with you |nfernal, you always win by default...

[Binky Stunt Cat]

Originally posted by .weasel.
nobody can play dumb with you |nfernal, you always win by default...
meanwhile, someone else is close in second place :p
*looks at Weasel* :p

[CmdrChris]

Originally posted by Binky Stunt Cat
double clanner!! :p


Yeah I know. But its quite realistic cause I am 2x the OCNZ you guys are :P

and I can't read so the instructions were wasted on me.

[.weasel.]

Binky - i'll let that last comment slide for the time being because at least you can spell my name right !!!

meanwhile, someone else is close in second place :D
*looks at Weasel* :D

see boys and girls, its not that difficult ;)

*looks at |nfernol in particular*

[Sydog]

Thanks for clearing that up weesul.

In other news:
http://www-cgi.cnn.com/cgi-bin/redir?URL=http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/you.html

[.weasel.]

"you are an idiot" - wow. that was fun, can i do it again ? :p

[TheChosen_1]

LOL, that cracks me up Sydog, :D

[Binky Stunt Cat]

L3#11

Well you'll just have to wait until we get back after it's all over, won't you?
this is on the photos page.....
can you guess whats wrong :p

[TheChosen_1]

I just went over to the VM forums for some reason, just having a look round and saw that they advertised one of their LANs on the radio, on the edge i think it was.
It might be an idea for L3 maybe but entirley up to KJ, just a suggestion :)

anyay you can over to the thread, and you can download the actual advertisment of the radio, over here :
VM thread for radio advertisment (http://www.virtualmagic.co.nz/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=99)

[KingJackal]

Originally posted by TheChosen_1
I just went over to the VM forums for some reason, just having a look round and saw that they advertised one of their LANs on the radio, on the edge i think it was.
It might be an idea for L3 maybe but entirley up to KJ, just a suggestion :)

anyay you can over to the thread, and you can download the actual advertisment of the radio, over here :
VM thread for radio advertisment (http://www.virtualmagic.co.nz/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=99)

Yeah - saw that. I don't think that hits our target audience though. It certainely didn't cause crowds to mass as a direct result :(.

[ExtremE]

KJ could u possibly tell me what day time the UT 2k3 tourny might be cause friday is valintines and will be taking the g/f out so just wondering wiether i will be able to make it and my g/f friends b-day is on sat night we going out then to just some kinda idea around abouts it might be:)

[KingJackal]

Tournament Times

NFS6: Friday Night
Worms: Saturday Morning ( early )

UT2k3: Saturday Night

( sorry if that stuffs you up - but if I swap them round it'll stuff someone else up :rolleyes: :D )

[ExtremE]

ta is there anychance u can give me a around about time for ut2k3 on sat if it earlyish i will still be able to make it afternoon would be good but that not going to happen
so could u give me a around about time or is that to hard to know

[NinJa_CookiE]

yea same scenario for me on that one too KJ, pretty hard to give an approx time i know :p

Should beable to come again since ExtremE is determined to beat me this time too, we'll see though, i got Sat night off work so far, trying to get Friday off too. Hopefully can make it to some of the LAN :)

[KingJackal]

Probably when everyone comes back from sleeping/showering/eating/whatever at home on the Saturday. Which, IIRC - normally happens before the pizza run.

So if I get pizza @ 8pm ( order it around 6:30 ), then we could start the tourney around 6-7pm, and have it finishing as food turns up :D.

Yes, yes - that will work nicely....
*monty burns pose*

[NinJa_CookiE]

cool thanks for that KJ

[ExtremE]

Those Times sound real good thanks KJ
and u were just lucky that u won that game ninja i got plenty of screenies showeing that u not a challange to me

[Binky Stunt Cat]

hey KJ, order me a large apricot chicken on the saturday if i'm not in by that stage :p
i'll probably turn up sometime that evening for a few hours, depending on what needs doing around here...

[Eagle32]

ohhh ergh... attendance is looknig sketchy. Forgot the street racing is on this weekend :D

[Binky Stunt Cat]

bastard!!
i was gonna grab the rest of The West Wing off ya...

[Gh0s7 L3mUr]

Hang on so let me get this straight...

No Binky, No Eagle :eek:


My first lan is 4 months and Who am I supposed to leach off. :(

I got a lot of catching up to do..

Least cmdrChris will be stopping in with BOTY. :D

[Binky Stunt Cat]

note the: bringing a hdd and some cds in on saturday arvo bit...

[O'Neill]

Originally posted by KingJackal
Probably when everyone comes back from sleeping/showering/eating/whatever at home on the Saturday. Which, IIRC - normally happens before the pizza run.

So if I get pizza @ 8pm ( order it around 6:30 ), then we could start the tourney around 6-7pm, and have it finishing as food turns up :D.

Yes, yes - that will work nicely....
*monty burns pose*
Why yes It would coz I could play the UT first round get knocked out and then I'll go fetch the Pizzas

Originally posted by Gh0s7 L3mUr
Hang on so let me get this straight...
No Binky, No Eagle
My first lan is 4 months and Who am I supposed to leach off.
I got a lot of catching up to do..

tea what the hell am I supposed to do friday nite If those two aren't there

[Elle T]

Get 0wned by the KJ :D :p

Btw isn't 6:30 just a tad early to order food, as thos that leave to sleep & Shower normally get back around then.
7:30-8pm sounds better.

[TheChosen_1]

Originally posted by KingJackal
Yeah - saw that. I don't think that hits our target audience though. It certainely didn't cause crowds to mass as a direct result :(.

Yeah you got a good point there, Oh well :)

[Artifice]

while eagl32 & binkster wont be there, just binklesteins harddisk saturday arvo. Several chch L3 attendees went to the "NOX". Im sure that those that went there and then attend the L3 should have enough leechy goodness for you. if not then there is always the gaming.

oh yeah that "you are an idiot" link, classic. when it got up to 21 windos i started alt+F4 ing and it took me several minutes to win.
i used to have a popup killer for that sort of thing. but im too lazy now.

[Lord Booga]

Too lazy to use something that works automatically?

That is lazy :P

[KingJackal]

Originally posted by Artifice
while eagl32 & binkster wont be there, just binklesteins harddisk saturday arvo. Several chch L3 attendees went to the "NOX". Im sure that those that went there and then attend the L3 should have enough leechy goodness for you. if not then there is always the gaming.

oh yeah that "you are an idiot" link, classic. when it got up to 21 windos i started alt+F4 ing and it took me several minutes to win.
i used to have a popup killer for that sort of thing. but im too lazy now.

Haha - pick the Internet Explorer user :D.

If you were using a browser like Opera or Mozilla ( with tabbed browsing ), you would have just killed the host window of the tabs, opened your browser again, and carried on having lost only a couple of seconds.

But don't let me stop you using an unsecure browser full of well-known exploits....
:p

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if the guys that went to the nox found anything that doesn't circulate down here! :)
( PLEASE someone have a free-source Frontpage equivalent ;) )

[SerN]

Leave the ordering pizzia thing at round 6 - 6:30 as I get hungry then :)

[.weasel.]

while we are on the subject of food...

i have managed to score us some cheep eatables care of ernest adams / irvings in the form of pies ! D

i'll be selling them off for between 80c and $1 each. i havent decided on a price yet. rest assured tho, they will be cheap.

its just a selection of pies, so there's steak, mince, mince and cheese, steak and cheese, and potato topped. im not sure how many will be there but it looks like 2 dozen or so.

so if anyones interested, come see me by the microwaye, andi'll cut you a deal ;)

[O'Neill]

Woo Hoo on-site pies

[SerN]

Who eat all the pies? who eat all the pies? you did.. you did... you fat *******! you eat all the pies! :p

[swiftynz]

:eek: OMG onsite PIES!! :D

this is sounding like my dream lan, but unfortunately my attendance is doubtful due to other social commitments this weekend. might pop in on sunday for a little while to say hi if i'm in town but i won't be bringing my computer unfortunately.

see ya's at #13... i hope. :confused:

[O'Neill]

42 hours out and only 40 people registered
goddam it'll be small
and no NCGN team-mates so I recon I'll use OCNZ colours

[Artifice]

.weasel. you dont work at ea do you? i work at gffc across the road. we have all the irvines pies in our chiller at work. not to mention the pizzas etc. i wonder what work charges for pies.

[SerN]

You always tend to get more people there than whats signed up though.

[Wibber]

I'll be draggig a contingent on sat, maybe even a handfull of ut geeks

[SerN]

Sweet more people = good

I'll be bringing a UT2003 server too :)

[.weasel.]

Friends in high places man. thats all it is ;)

i managed to get this awesome deal on pies because i helped a friend at work with some tech support and got him computer bits at wholesale price. That friends father in law happens to own e.a. and irvings :D

After that he said "you looked after me, now i'll look after you"

Hence, the cheap pies for the lan. aint life good to me :D

[Lord Booga]

Cheap pies at L3! w00t!, I love you weasel

[Gh0s7 L3mUr]

Is it BYOTS (Bring Your Own Tomato Sauce)? :D

I'm so looking foward to this weekend. If anyone needs a ride let me know. I don't mind playing Taxi.

[TheChosen_1]

Hell im so looking forward to sitting round doing nothing at the LAN just leeching and gaming, first week abck at tech is nto easy to get used to but I had the LAN to look forward to so me cant wait.

cya there on the dot at 6pm :D

[Elle T]

Yuppers shall be there @ 6 on the dot.

Thats if KJ arrives on time *LOOKS AT KJ*


Also anyone know if Warp is coming ?

[KingJackal]

Yeah, Warp is coming ( OMG - I failed to organise a LAN on a weekend he was busy! OMG I LOSE!! :eek: :eek: ;) )....

....and yeah, I should be there by 6 - just about everything is all sorted :).

Now I've just gotta think up the order of the NFS tourney.... hrmmmms....

Now I've just gotta hope it'll be a quiet Friday at work :rolleyes:
( as if :( :p )

[.weasel.]

How could i forget the tomato sauce ? that would be very ungodly of me... ;)

[jeef]

couplands had pies at 59c each (limit 40) i like dem couplands pies... mince only tho and not sure if they still at that price??

arg, i may b able to make ut tourney/pizza (hope i make the pizza run)

[Sumo]

It ain't mince man........ ooer!

real mince MEAT that is..... think heads, eyes, internal organs....

[Sumo]

Originally posted by .weasel.

After that he said "you looked after me, now i'll look after you"


Welcome to the family

[KingJackal]

*bounces around room*

Well, time is a wasting and I didn't get away as quickly as hoped - so I'll still be using that same old abomination for a case ( didn't have enough time to switch cases and watercooling systems :( ).

*sighs*

Ah well, and I was so close... still, at least it'll be ready NEXT time...
:rolleyes:

See you all there! :)

[Artifice]

take em anyways, we love playing with pc parts at lans ;)

[TheChosen_1]

Im pakcing up in a few minutes so cya there peoples :D

[swiftynz]

woot!

thanks to the incredible generosity of Paul Rhee i'll be there on the friday night. i have a friend coming to stay at the flat tomorrow so i have to be back home then unfortunately. i wasn't going to come at all but thanks to paul i'll hopefully get some good gaming in. :):)

cya there ppls :)

[Sumo]

See ya's about 11pm.... have to do the valentines thing.

[O'Neill]

I'm packing up now see you guys round 7:30

[SerN]

I'll cya there at around 9pm.

I'm kinda annoyed as I didn't get my new HDD and new Monitor in time for the lan, damn it!

but I'll try to make the best of what i have, looking foward to seeing you all, cya there people! :)

[swiftynz]

well i was there last night, a good lan but smaller than usual. played the first round of the worms tournament... bit of a fizzer since the servers weren't configured properly and we had bugger all weapons. :p still fun though. :)

played some C&C Generals with sydog and chosen1, with chosen eventually winning when i surrendered after a failed attack (hey we were hungry :D).

also played a few good game of SOF2 and got some leeching done. not bad for the 7 hours i was there. :)

[Artifice]

humongous leech, thx dudes :D
it was getting really busy saturday night when i left.
i always plan to get some sleep saturday morning.... maybe nexttime :shrug:

[cadmax]

good LAN :) down loaded 30GB, up load 40GB, i'm happy :)

[oOo Dragon oOo]

I actually popped in on Saturday night and had a look around to see what it was all about. Looks like a whole lot of fun really. Bloody hot in there tho :)

Soooooooooooo... is L3 13 gonna be the same dates as this one?

/edit Nevermind I looked at saw the dates :) SWEET

[Binky Stunt Cat]

*prods Dragon*
i didnt know you went in!

[oOo Dragon oOo]

Yeah It wasnt really a planned thing, I was in town at the time and thought I'd pop in. I was there around 9:30ish I think it was well after the pizza run judging by the amount of empty boxes about.

All going well tho I'll be at the next one and Ill let you know.

[O'Neill]

Excellent lan guys
Worms rocked, UT2k3 kicked ass, Tribes 2 rocked and the leecky goodness never ended

well heres my version of the DC chat

full review after more sleep

[|nferno]

great lan guys pitty about lack of binky THC and robo and some of the other regulars :\

[Sumo]

Sorry i missed coming back saturday night, after a good night at L3, then working all day, i kinda went to sleep on saturday night.

I think Elle T should start taking valium, although i would have liked to see his attempt of inserting certain computer peripherals (sp?) in places only SSquirel should know about.......

[Elle T]

Originally posted by Sumo
I think Elle T should start taking valium, although i would have liked to see his attempt of inserting certain computer peripherals (sp?) in places only SSquirel should know about.......

^WTF?
Get off the Crack!

My lan summary:
Alot of gaming & new faces was quite good except certian ppl don't seem to listen unless you repeat yourself 5000 times, which made the Worms Tourney a huge mission to sort.

Played a Heap of Tribes 2, Worms and a few others.
Tended to spent alot of time setting up peoples games & having fun at Crazysurfer's expence.

In all was good lan - big thanx to the KJ.

[jeef]

tribes2 did you what :)

good game, but didnt appeal to me to much, i found vehicals quite hard to handle due to the camera angles, guess its something u just get used to? :)

[CrazySurfaNZ]

Originally posted by Elle T


Played a Heap of Tribes 2, Worms and a few others.
Tended to spent alot of time setting up peoples games & having fun at Crazysurfer's expence.

In all was good lan - big thanx to the KJ.

WHAT FUN DID YOU HAVE AT MY EXPENSE!!!?!?!?!!

oh well.. whatever it was.. i guess my 5000 winpopups might have made up for it :P

[Lord Booga]

(Almost) Anything I said in that L3 chat should not be taken seriously. 24hrs+ of no sleep does strange things to me.

The tribes 2 was good (even if NeM owned us all), the worms was good, and for some strange reason I did rather well at the bit of Q3 a few people played.

[Sumo]

Originally posted by Elle T

My lan summary:
Alot of gaming & new faces was quite good except certian ppl don't seem to listen unless you repeat yourself 5000 times, which made the Worms Tourney a huge mission to sort.


Hence the need to take valium....

Still can't remember hearing the first 4999 times....:D

[moose_nz]

Got leech(ed) >:|
good lan guys, I got heaps more **** and had heaps of fun...

Will be looking foreward to the next one if I don't have to work.

I agree it was a bit small BUT it was valentines day so.... makes sense really.

oh btw okay I believe now that unl33t is a girl.... the only reason I didn't was simply that it doesn't happen often unfortunately.

[moose_nz]

Thanks guys fora great lan

Oh yea I forgot to add this... hehe 24 hours no sleep and I don't look so good eh?:

[.weasel.]

great lan kj, only two things could have mad it better, but theres not much you can do about it.

1: get more regulars showing up
2: host the lan at a facility that has a microwave or on oven e.g. rolleston...

as for you elle-t, you should know by now that nobody listens to you :P

generals rocked, especially over the lan. Me and chosen_1 outclassed anyone who played us ;)

see u all at EasterLan (a.k.a. the next l3...)

[Sydog]

Regulars, whats wrong with Sern Chosen1 and I. We've only missed 2 L3's total (#1 and 9/10). :P

And don't mention Rolleston again, Sern will start to put rubbish in peoples pcs again from excitement.

Oh and Generals, I beleive I didn't lose a match while I wasn't playing a 2 on 1 game. I totally owned Chosen1, and the game with Chosen and Swifty, when I surrendered I was probably at the top, having a nuke and particle cannon land on your base every few minutes doesn't help :)

[henrym]

For my first L3, I must say I had a memorable time.

Getting pwned by cadmax on SerN's server.. playing CS one-on-ones with mates of mine, and going for a 10pm pizza run with BlueMoose, unl33t, Etherograph and rrp.

I thought the LAN quality was great, with gigs of files being shared constantly and moving round I'd have thought there would be probs with high pings, etc. but I was able to play with <15ms pings on SerN's UT2k3 server.
Maybe I'm just too uninformed to know whether it is expected/normal to have performance like that :confused: , but I thought it was excellent.

All-in-all a great time... will be there again.

Thanx KJ :)

[obilix]

>2: host the lan at a facility that has a microwave or on oven e.g. > rolleston...

Having a microwave at C-LAN isn't such a bad idea ... something we could look at, actually, once we've finished moving everything downstairs.

On that note, though ... if there's anything about the venue that you particularly like or dislike, or ideas that you might have, please feel free to mention it to either Jono (Glippo) or myself. So long as KJ is ok with it, I'll probably knock up a survey form for the next L3 that you guys can fill out, telling us what you like (and don't like) about C-LAN.

Seriously, our aim is to make the place *the* LAN vanue in Chch, but we can only do that with your help. Our contact details are on the C-LAN site (www.c-lan.net.nz) if there's anything you want to share...

Obilix (C-LAN guy)

[Sydog]

How about a 56k connection to the net. That way we could have a server connect and cache the OCNZ forums everynow and then.

Would be quite good, means us OCNZers can read the latest on here and not have to cruise home and use someone elses pc.

[TheChosen_1]

Jeez Sydog cant you like a couple of days not looking at the forums.

Yeah LAN was sweet, and sydog it wasnt total owange in generals it was reasonably close :)

Leeching was mass and gaming was sweet. Sweet to talk to you OCNZ guys again, thats what I like about our LANS we are becoming more and more a community us regulars, its sweet :)

What the F*ck was with SerN putting napkins and subway packets in peeps machines? what were you smoking down that end of C-LAN SerN? :D

[SerN]

Well I think it was a lack of sleep which caused me to put a bag of chips, bottle of coke and paper rubish in Paul Rhee's case, and plactic bags, paper's etc in KJ's case. though Sydog helped me by unlocking Elle T's Enermax server case, from which I placed a nice subway napkin over his drives bays and locked the cover back up ;)

As always KJ, A very fun LAN.

it's always good to catch up with OCNZ friends and talk about the latest hardware and games.



cheers, :)

[Wibber]

moving? what? where? huh? details?

[Elle T]

We're going to be exiled to the tiny basement @ C-Lan :(
Which IMHO Sucks.

[Wibber]

nah, my rig'll run better, whats going up top?

[KingJackal]

Once again there's a trend where a reasonable group of people decide to stay on and game away through the Sunday. Of note this LAN were BF1942: Road to Rome, C&C: Generals and of course Worms :D.

The Road to Rome maps were an instant hit - and they're in general bigger, meaning a field day for snipers! Some great games were had, with some incredible piloting skills shown by several people.

C&C Generals is looking quite good. Hopefully it'll be a game that'll become a new standard for RTS games. How could a game with and intro like that NOT? :D

Oh, and don't play Tribes2. NeM will pwnz j00 :eek:
( although it was fun all the same... )

The new move WILL put us in a smaller area - so numbers will probably be restricted to around 70. However, the downstairs room means NO screen glare, NO leaky roof, and less noise from outside annoying us :). And in the winter, it should mean we won't freeze ( it'll just be the summer months that are a problem with heat! ). There's lots happening in the C-LAN venue, so it'll be interesting to see.

And yes, a net connection would be good - it'd be handy to have access to Google etc so that I can more effectively troubleshoot problems people have there!

LOST & FOUND

1x Fan - It's O'Neils. If you want it back soon, email/PM me.
1x Small yellow screw-driver - It's ElleT's, I'll have a look and see if it got mixed into my tools. It's a Straight-head one (not Philips).

BIG UPS!!

To teh [OCNZ]|nferno, who brought an XP2100+ system for us to server games off. It didn't get thrashed a lot - but it was handy having it there for those bigger BF games ;).

[OCNZ]SerN and Warp for bringing switches - the extra ports made balancing the bandwidth easier!

[OCNZ].Weasel. for providing hours of annoying metal-on-metal cutting noise :P. Heh, modding is good....

All you other guys for coming and paying up front - we're now making money, which means soon we'll be able to buy stuff to make the LANs better ( = good ;) ).

ATTENDANCE

A smaller LAN with 51 attendees - but expected given it was Valentine's weekend and all...

TOURNAMENTS

We didn't really get much of the way through the UT2k3 tournament - new maps and patches meant it was a hassle to get everyone playing with the same game - but from the gameplay we did see, it would've been a [Pike] guy... :rolleyes:

The Worms tourney got pwnzed by yours truely. With [OCNZ]ElleT, [OCNZ]KingJackal, Warp and someone else ( OMG I suck at this!! :eek: ) in the final it was hard going - but I finally took it out. Unfortunately it's a highly debatable result, as early in the deciding round Warp was dropped from the server. He'll no doubt claim that he was about to slaughter me - but it's all lies. I've decided that winning that Worms tourney deserves a prize - so I'm going to let myself into the next LAN free. Hah! Beat that!

MONEY

We made positive again! The domain ( www.l3.net.nz ) has come up for renewal again too - so it looks like I've just found out where that money'll be going ;).

[jeef]

see u all at EasterLan (a.k.a. the next l3...)
theres another lan b4 easter i believe...?

o, and the lost & found, must be an error, nothing of pauls is listed? :p

[obilix]

ElleT said:

We're going to be exiled to the tiny basement @ C-Lan
Which IMHO Sucks.

Hey, don't hold back. :)

Well, I guess there's two ways to look at the move, really. The first is to say "Hey, we're losing space - it sux!". There's no denying it, there will be less space downstairs than there is now. We *are* looking at ways of maximising the space (desks that fold down, couches that become beds, etc), so hopefully it won't be limiting as you think. Yes, numbers will be restricted to around 70 - but having said that, there has not yet been an event at C-LAN (either VM or L3) that has reached 70 people IN TOTAL, never mind concurrently.

The other way of looking at it is to think about the positives for a minute. As KJ mentioned - no screen glare or leaks, reduced noise, and a LOT warmer in winter (as anyone who attended the Neverwinter Nights LAN last year will appreciate!). It does have the potential to get warm in summer - which is why we are having ducted ventilation installed, plus some high velocity fans. And if it's still too hot - we'll deal with it!

In addition, there is going to be a cafe going in at the front of the building - thanks to those who filled out the survey at the weekend, by the way. Good food in the same building is always a winner, IMO.

The most critical thing, as always, is money. The unfortunate reality is that even if the building hadn't been purchased by new owners (meaning we couldn't keep renting the whole place), the costs of renting an entire central city building are very high. There was just no way that we could afford to keep losing the amount of money (we're talking a four-figure loss EACH MONTH) and still provide a LAN venue. So, to be blunt, it was a case of reducing costs, or shutting down completely.

However ... on the upside, the reduction in costs means that we may even start making a very small profit on the place. If so, there's a whole bunch of improvements that we have on our agenda - the place *will* rock, given half a chance.

Put it this way - we are providing C-LAN primarily as a service for the gaming community in Christchurch (there's certainly not enough money in it to justify it as a business venture). We want it to be the ultimate LAN venue in the city. With your support, we just might get there...

Obilix (C-LAN guy)

PS: If anybody has lost a sleeping bag, there was one left behind at the weekend. PM/email me with the details, and we can arrange a time to collect it.

[jeef]

haha, bet its pauls... or someone elses cause paul took theres :p ok ill stop now...

[ExtremE]

Originally posted by .weasel.

see u all at EasterLan (a.k.a. the next l3...)

Well this Easter lan coming up some one other than us Pikes will have a chance to win cause me and ninja are going up for some real UT2k3 gaming at the auckland Jaffa lan :)

[jeef]

wohoo, i have a chance again, although im sure your presence and expertese will be missed...

[ExtremE]

i will have to say from what i saw u guys where getting better witch is good:)

[Gh0s7 L3mUr]

Damn that was fun..

Can't believe nobody has mentioned the pretty girl in the building across the road. She was having her hair done with the door open. When 20 odd geeks raced outside to have a perv, I think they got a little worried and closed the door. :D

Personal Highlight was meeting more OCNZer's than in my previous L3's combined. Didn't manage to get a lot of gaming done (too much updates to catch up on). But did enjoy getting owned by everyone in T2. Also enjoyed watching the infamous Worms. Hell I might even give it a go next time.

One Thing isn't #14 the easter lan? #13 being March. Or has a March Lan been cancelled?

[Geek4Life]

Originally posted by Gh0s7 L3mUr
Damn that was fun..

Can't believe nobody has mentioned the pretty girl in the building across the road. She was having her hair done with the door open. When 20 odd geeks raced outside to have a perv, I think they got a little worried and closed the door. :D


yeah that was pretty funny, "can you give us some privacy" seemed to be yelled out from there.

We were only getting some freshair as well ;)

[CrazySurfaNZ]

Originally posted by Geek4Life
yeah that was pretty funny, "can you give us some privacy" seemed to be yelled out from there.

We were only getting some freshair as well ;)


HAHAHAHA that was so funny... nobody noticed the 3 odd prostitutues that seemed to walk in .. go to the back and walk out again on sat night..

[oOo Dragon oOo]

Originally posted by Gh0s7 L3mUr

One Thing isn't #14 the easter lan? #13 being March. Or has a March Lan been cancelled?

I hope it hasnt been cancelled.. that'll really screw me plans up. I'll have to do work around the house instead of sitting on my ass.. and we cant have that.

[KingJackal]

Originally posted by CrazySurfaNZ
HAHAHAHA that was so funny... nobody noticed the 3 odd prostitutues that seemed to walk in .. go to the back and walk out again on sat night..

Somebody down the back must have ordered some live entertainment :eek: :eek:. Now who was down the back there?.... hmmm....

WIBBEEEERRRRRR!!!1!!111!
:p ;)

And as for #13.... it's been cancelled? Geez, even I don't know about that! :eek:

SIF CANCEL MY LAN! :mad:

:p

[O'Neill]

Yup My fan I realised when I got home.

I wont be on the forum for a week or so I'm going on holiday
so I'll catch up on all the goss arround March 1st

[TheChosen_1]

So thats why everyone went running out, I looked round and most of the back half of the room had emptied out, only like KJ me and Booga where the only ones left. Dam I missed it :D

[Solid Snake]

Damn, it looks like I missed out on heaps of things. Oh well. I hopefully will be making an appearance on the Easter Lan, if it fits my time tables.

Moving to the basement isn't neccessarily a draw back, I mean it ain't that bad. Yes our numbers will have to be restricted at some time to about 70 but its like, with our current space usage, that's pretty good. I myself used up about half a desk most of the times since I liked to have all the servers around me [although with no KVM switch ... it didn't help]. None the less, I reackon the positives outweigh the negatives which are very few.

[-NiBbLeT-]

Originally posted by KingJackal
The Worms tourney got pwnzed by yours truely. With [OCNZ]ElleT, [OCNZ]KingJackal, Warp and someone else ( OMG I suck at this!! :eek: ) in the final it was hard going - but I finally took it out.

I believe that was TYRAEL , who deserves respect because that was basically the second time he ever played Worms before.
And he kept up with youz till the end!

Personally, it could have been better for me, due to a number of problems:

- The UT2k3 patch would not install (even after reinstalling UT)
- ~ every 30 seconds I would get down to 2-6 fps in UT, usually while engaged in a combat situation = me being gibbed
This was with ALL back ground apps closed, normal frame rate ~70fps.

Apart from all that, it was pretty good, hope to show my face at the easter one. There was quite a good conversation going on at ~7 AM on Saturday! Also, the case badges are excellent, a lot of people picked theirs up there. Thanks for the event KJ! It would have been better if James was there with the Intranet .. Hope to see you at easter man.

[.weasel.]

what a lan it was. definatly one to remember....

next time, i'll get more organised with the modding side of things and actually build somthing useful... perhaps even go over some of the principals behind electronics (e.g. proper use of a soldering iron, working out resistance ect...)

There will be no more fake-dremel at l3 for the time being :(. Why ? Its only usefull on thin steel and plastics, but more importantly it will be replaced by its bigger, noisier, and therefore better big brother the Hand-Held Jigsaw ;)

life is gooood.

And next time around i'll get YOU guys more involved as i may know what to do, but you'll learn a lot more from actual hands-on experience...

was it just me, or did everyone think i was electrified ? ( nobody around me for like a 2m radius while i was modding the NIC... and it got worse when i h4xx0r3d the old case i had...) i'll never fully understand why nobody wanted to go near me...

and between now and then ( and polytech work... ) im planning "somthing new" for the lan... keep u posted on that.

see y'all there.

[TYRAEL]

Someone should bring a stereo or some good speakers to the next lan because at the last 2 lans ive been at somebody all ways wants speakers and my speakers suck lol no one could use them because they needed 24v sound card if you guyz want me to bring a stero i will :)

[Eagle32]

Originally posted by TYRAEL
Someone should bring a stereo or some good speakers to the next lan because at the last 2 lans ive been at somebody all ways wants speakers and my speakers suck lol no one could use them because they needed 24v sound card if you guyz want me to bring a stero i will :)

Just NO!

To many different music tastes too much grief.

[Solid Snake]

There is a good reason why we ban stereos at lans, because you can never ever please the lanner next or around you. Feel free to bring them but if KJ or I can hear them we will ask you to turn it down or remove them with quite excessive force. [Sorry Choosen_1 for yelling at ya last time]. Also we had a very bad experience at one of the L3's when someone brough a hi-fi system and was doing dolby digital tests all the time [imagine, waaaaaaaaaaa-haaaaaaaaaaaa-riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii-peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! at 10 minute intervals]

Like I said, feel free to bring'em when there is a collective amount of people... but be forewarned!

[Sumo]

I do recall KJ bringing speakers and music playing all LAN, music was mainly trance(?) and i can't remember anyone (except retard upstairs) having a problem with it.

Low volume background sound, better than eternal scream from the case fans, or sound tests......

[obilix]

Originally posted by Sumo
I do recall KJ bringing speakers and music playing all LAN, music was mainly trance(?) and i can't remember anyone (except retard upstairs) having a problem with it.

Oooh, forgot to mention ... speaking of 'retard upstairs' ... retard, and the associated drug dealers and prostitutes, have moved out from the upstairs flat! So hopefully no more fun and games with baseball bats in the small hours...

Obilix (C-LAN guy)

[jeef]

haha, big guy, whats his name? musta scared em off afta the last LAN! :D

[SerN]

On the subject of noise... Why does everyone turn their case fans on full power at LANs?

Luckly I was at the back part of C-Lan, but If I went to the middle part of the room a loud droning sound of people's loud case and CPU fans could be heard :(

If everyone runs thier fans at the same speed they run them at home i'm sure it would make a world of difference ;)

Wouldn't it be nice if every L3 memeber had water cooling :)

[Binky Stunt Cat]

but even then my rig is still quieter!
*points at Sy's noisy rig*

[Sydog]

Yes, these papst fans are rather noisy at 12v arent they :)

And Sern, it gets damn hot in a lan, and with headphones on you cant hear **** all of the case fans

[TYRAEL]

Originally posted by Sumo
I do recall KJ bringing speakers and music playing all LAN, music was mainly trance(?) and i can't remember anyone (except retard upstairs) having a problem with it.

Low volume background sound, better than eternal scream from the case fans, or sound tests......

How about playing that Trance music, in the background, with KJ controlling it?

[Binky Stunt Cat]

NO SPEAKERS FULL STOP

*ahem*
thats my view anyway....since all that gets played is the bass heavy stuff and you can feel that.

[SerN]

Originally posted by Sydog
Yes, these papst fans are rather noisy at 12v arent they :)

And Sern, it gets damn hot in a lan, and with headphones on you cant hear **** all of the case fans

<Prick mode> heh I guess you need to run at 12V on your crapy blackice setup LOL </Prick mode> :)

[Solid Snake]

Yo hey I was chatting to this cyber cafe guy and he says BF1942 has good network coding, despite our futile attempts at getting it to run really nicely on my own system as a ded server [Athlon XP+2100 512MB DDR 133]... he says that I have no idea what I am talking about. I wasn't too happy, I was pretty sure that BF1942 still suffers from crappy network code. Please advise.

Also to the guys playing C&C Generals at the last lan. What was the nwtwork connection like? Apparently this same guy says that it has bad networking coding, with 8 players having 1000 guys apparently really slows down. Even with 8 players and small amount of guys is slow... please advise on the experience.

[Eagle32]

I don't know any rts' that runs well with 8000 units in a game. In fact they all run like dogs with that number of units. Or is that 1000 all up? That'd still be a boarder line number with all the older rigs that are enevetably (sp?) in a game.

I agree that LAN's are deffinitly hotter than home hence the need for greater cooling.

[TheChosen_1]

Nah thats fine James, you didnt yell at me to turn it down u asked me and I was more than happy. Theres no point in me bringing mine again as they arent loud enough, plus no speakers so that makes it easier.

LOL binky what have you got against bass LOL

Also Sydog you just got owned by SerN about your blackice setup :D

[Sydog]

Originally posted by SerN
<Prick mode> heh I guess you need to run at 12V on your crapy blackice setup LOL </Prick mode> :)

hey uncalled for, I've never been over 45deg before, at a lan or at home, yet I distinctly remember you being at 45deg with your fans on high a couple lans ago, you cant deny it :)

[Sydog]

Yeah James, Generals does lag to hell.

If you 'know' how to setup a dedicated server of BF1942 it runs smoothly, you get 56kers online that do well with pings around 200. Just really what you fiddle around with in the cfg files

[mird-OC]

*ponders another rant about the inaccuracy of temperature probes and how they're entirely unsuitable for comparison*

nah :p

[Sydog]

Same motherboard and the cpus differed by 66mhz :P

[Binky Stunt Cat]

nothing against bass, but i prefer to be able to listen to my music, hear the game, or watch a movie properly without a thud thud thud going in the background

[mird-OC]

Originally posted by Sydog
Same motherboard and the cpus differed by 66mhz :P
okay you can compare than... if you're using exactly the same cases with exactly the same fan layouts providing the exact same airflow and blah blah blah blah... blah blah blah...

:p

[TYRAEL]

ok then i wont bring my stero or speakers i guess your right people would get anoyed no matter wat we played :)

[.weasel.]

when playing generals i found it was better to have small servers running (e.g. max. of 4 players, with a couple of bots throw'n in for good measure...) than larger ones of 8.

oh and SerN, good call :)

[SerN]

Yea me and Sydog both have KX7's, though Sydog was running a Tbred and I was running a Palamino.

My new Tbred is 5C cooler than my palamino and it's running 300Mhz higher too. (both chips running 1.85 too)

My temps are around 40C or so now....

But sorry Sydog, those little blackice extremes are actually very good rad's for their size. ;)

[Sydog]

Man, I was referring to the lan before that, when I had a 1700 palo and you had the 1800.

Pleased to see you getting some good temps and overclocks with that Tbred I sold ya :)

[SerN]

yea, this new chip is pretty sweet :)

more speed for less heat, can't get better than that ;)

[CrazySurfaNZ]

I have to say.. i like some background music at a lan.. just gives it a more upbeat atmosphere and makes it more interesting.

In other news.. my silverstorm 3 arrived today.. and subject to money (and silverprop stock levels) I should be getting wet soon :D

[Solid Snake]

I guess background music is all good, but the thing is it annoys people in the end. The rule of thumb for volume is if you can hear it through your earphones then it is too loud.As you can see EQX suffered from the fate that they had to have background music. Fun for those who don't have a computer, those who are spectators for example.

Anyways, the whole background music idea was shut down since we had the crazy nutter upstairs complaining that his 2-year old son couldn't sleep. So we decided to turn it off for future lans, so that he couldn't argue with our rather non-music quiet fan noises which can go through 2 brick walls and is so loud he can't watch the rugby game one with 16 sweaty lads cheering.

It might be different due to the movement to the basement, but KJ will have the final say on the matter though.

[jeef]

personnaly i disagree with the 'loud' background music due to ppls different tastes, perhaps 'quiet' bg music will work?

i thought c&c generals ran ok, cept that some ppl lagged out or something when i was playing?

[Antimatter]

Any complaints about me bringing the sound system I had for a few of the lans(#7, 8 and 9 I think)...although it was just an extention of the main rig for #7.
I have a couple of ideas about how to improve the sound quality, smallish speakers and a couple of sets so it can be spread around a smaller area(maybe just at the back of the room) without annoying base to intrude on those who like the whir of fans(Binky). :p
I found the bigger speakers(a couple of LANs ago) to be a tad heavy on the base and got annoying after a while because all I could hear was the base.

[TheChosen_1]

Yeah something like Antimatters sound he had a few LANs back was sweet I reckon, just some techno running the background in the early hours of the morning is nice.

[CrazySurfaNZ]

Yeah.. quiet bg music is all we need.... just something to get away from that constant drone.... and to liven it up a bit.

[Binky Stunt Cat]

no no no no
rather than speakers, if everyone wants to listen to the same thing, run a shoutcast server.
That way those who dont like whatever is playing dont have to listen, those playing games can actually hear the game, and those few watching a vid or sleeping can actually do it as well.

[SecretSquirrel]

With a larger lan, less noise is better, because there are generally 60 voices saying 'aw **** off man, i was behind a ****ing wall!'

Whereas at a smaller lan with 10-20 people, music, beer etc and crap generally go down well, mainly because you dont have lots of noise to beat

[Solid Snake]

Shoutcast servers were introduced ages ago to l3, but they never caught on. Probably due to the lack of information.

When I come back at the end of the year, flyers introducing people to the Intranet and the Shoutcast server will be there. Also misc information will be avaliable such as places for food etc etc.

The Easter one, if I can make it will be the first introduction to those flyiers as such.

[Geek4Life]

I think the whole point of the music is not to be heard when you've got headphones on. Which renders the idea of a shoutcast server as useless.

The music should be for when you're just wandering around looking at rigs and the like. Or watching other people playing games.

[Binky Stunt Cat]

but the problem is that with the music that usualy plays, you can still hear it WITH your headphones on...thats hte whole problem..

[oOo Dragon oOo]

When I went in on Saturday night even tho it was my first time in the place it didnt really feel totally comfortable... tho it was prob since i didnt really know anyone or it was one guy eyeballing me when we walked around :D But anyway, a low ambient sound running, even if it was at the back of the building would work. I noticed a lot of the gaming seemed to be happening near the front.

When people are setting up their rigs, is there a specific place for people to go? ie Gamers in on bit, leechers at the rear, Drunken hippies in the 2 man mosh pit outside? Or is it a walk in dump ya box and go mad?

[Sydog]

Generally all the OCNZ fellas sit up at the front in the first few rows, Random people and some OCNZers in the middle, and Wibber and his mates at the back where its dark lol

[Sumo]

Originally posted by obilix
Oooh, forgot to mention ... speaking of 'retard upstairs' ... retard, and the associated drug dealers and prostitutes, have moved out from the upstairs flat! So hopefully no more fun and games with baseball bats in the small hours...

Obilix (C-LAN guy)

Ta Oblix, was gonna have to get Elle T whooping some arse... and no not with a whip like normal.....

Problem with walk ins? Get Booga out front with his "breast screening" googles... may turn people (and yes many lanners) away.

(no offence guys!)

[.weasel.]

how could you offend anyone with an innocent comment like that :p

[CmdrChris]

Well my l3 cameo appearance went well, only there for about 1hr, but it was great to meet a few of the OCNZ southern contingent.

managed to watch some ppl play some good unreal2k3 and Ellie T was playng tribes 2. and got in a little leeching, had the laptop on the hub for a bit, said gidday to a few people which was great.

But just like to say thanks guys for the L3 experience.

And I wanted to ask, can I put l3 veteran in my sig now? :D

I have attached a pick of KJ's boomslang/watercooling madness

[.weasel.]

actually, thats a rather clean shot of kj's little area. its usually encrusted in filth / general lan rubbish.

a keeper nonetheless ;)

[swiftynz]

i took a couple of pics at L3#12 aswell (sorry these are a bit late - my computer hasnt been connected to the net for a while):

[swiftynz]

if anyone wants the full size versions (~500k each) i'll email them to ya: