Temperature on P4 1.6A [Archive] - Overclockers NZ Forums

kallekill

13-06-2002, 05:16 AM

I don't know if anyone has asked this question before, but i am a little concerned about the temperature on my Pentium 4 1.6a Nothwood. I'm using motherboard monitor to read the temperature and in idle mode it's about 33 C but when I've played a game for a while it's up to 45 C. I'm wondering if this is normal or is it too high? When should I be concerned? I'm afraid it will rise even more when I put in another harddrive and a Geforce 4.

The room temperature is 25 C and the temperature inside the computer is 30 C, so the airflow seems pretty good.

I'm running it at 2.1 Ghz but I didn't notice much increase in temperature because of the overclocking. I tried to run at stock speed 1.6 but it still got to 45 C on heavy load.

I didn't remove the thermal pad before I applied silicon paste. Does it make a big difference?

Kalle

_N_

13-06-2002, 06:23 AM

those temps are OK, but you don't wan't to go any higher.
It looks like you don't have enough case cooling, becuase if it idle's at 33, it means that the case is about that temp.

So if you can cool down the case you should be ok.

Deviant

13-06-2002, 07:15 AM

Those temps are just fine, but you can do alot better a N says but putting a case fan or 2 in there.

And this is a must, remove the heatsink, remove the thermal pad with a solvent like nail polish remover, and then apply a very thin layer of artic silver paste (best) or any other heatsing paste you can get. That should drop you temps by about 5-10 degrees on load.

_N_

13-06-2002, 07:38 AM

or I use an old credit card to remove the thermal stuff of the bottom of the heatsink and put a bit of cheap white thermal compound.

what sort of case cooling do you have?

kallekill

13-06-2002, 11:18 AM

I will try to remove that thermal stuff. I am using some 2 or 3 year old white silicon paste, but I think that it should still work pretty good.

I have a 300W PSU with a noisecontrol fan. The inside of the computer is covered by ''magic fleece" that makes it very quiet but i guess the airflow gets worse. The only place that isn't covered is on the back below the PSU and I'm thinking of adding an extra fan there. A fan that blows air into the computer. But it does'nt seem too bad now. I put a i thermometer inside the computer and it read 30 C. That's not so bad, or is it?

_N_

13-06-2002, 12:01 PM

well for case temps,
with my cooling turned right up, the case is the same temp as the room, with the cooling turned to low, it gets 5C over the room temp. So your's is OK, don't you think that you room is a bit too hot, :D

SecretSquirrel

13-06-2002, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by kallekill
I will try to remove that thermal stuff. I am using some 2 or 3 year old white silicon paste, but I think that it should still work pretty good.

I have a 300W PSU with a noisecontrol fan. The inside of the computer is covered by ''magic fleece" that makes it very quiet but i guess the airflow gets worse. The only place that isn't covered is on the back below the PSU and I'm thinking of adding an extra fan there. A fan that blows air into the computer. But it does'nt seem too bad now. I put a i thermometer inside the computer and it read 30 C. That's not so bad, or is it?

Airflow makes a huge difference, I have a little old Duron overclocked to almost a blue colour :) and the inside case temp pretty much stays at 19 degrees. I have two 120mm fans in the case though, one at the top sucking air down onto the heatsink and one at the bottom (deathchimney!!) sucking the resulting air out.

It takes my CPU just over a minute to cool from 31 degrees (with a heater blowing near the pc) down to 21 (or 29/19 without heater ;) )

kallekill

13-06-2002, 08:44 PM

Well. It is pretty hot in my room during the summer. I'll have to have both windows fully open to get 25 C and sometimes, like when I have to draw down the blind to get it real dark when watching a movie, it feels like a sauna.

I'm trying to get the computer as quiet as possible so I don't want to add any extra fans if I don't need to. Guess quiet and overclocking doesn't go well together.

2 or 3 year old silicon paste shouldn't be a problem right? It won't expire that fast or would it. I'm a little concerned that the temperature will rise when I remove the thermal pad and apply that silicon stuff. I read somewere on a forum that someone got 43 C idle when using Artic Silver paste and he didn't overclock the CPU.

Deviant

13-06-2002, 08:53 PM

Everybodies motherboards read different, and there a huge margin of error. Your temps will not go up, as long as you don't make any silly mistakes, your temps will only go down.

_N_

13-06-2002, 09:20 PM

kallekill, you're ok, I forgot it's summer over there, my room is like 16°C during the day. Your temps seem fine, one thing which will help take the case temp down is having an air duct to take the warm air of the CPU heatsink outside.

I.R

13-06-2002, 09:23 PM

Off the topic: Sweden??!?!? WTF?!?!?

Back on topic: Quiet cooling you say....... "cone of death" should help as well :)

_N_

13-06-2002, 10:33 PM

what's wrong with Sweden, it's a cool place? :)

anyway, what's cone of death?
you got me thinking of putting a cone air filter onto an air intake for my fans now, :D

Humantuckshop

13-06-2002, 10:53 PM

Yeah, people are allowed to live in Sweden. You got something against Sweden, I.R?

It's where all top quality pr0n is made.......

kallekill

14-06-2002, 05:01 AM

Off Topic:

Hehe. Sweden is pretty OK, but the summer isn't that long (which is good if you are an overclocker though). I would like to visit New Zealand sometime, the home of Peter Jackson. I've been a big fan of him for a long time. I have seen all his movies except Forgotten Silver but it will be released this summer on DVD in Sweden.

Wibber

14-06-2002, 08:25 AM

go buy some vantec stealth fans, the're pretty pricey, but real quiet.. I want some but don't have $120 NZD to do em all

Deviant

14-06-2002, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by kallekill
Off Topic:

Hehe. Sweden is pretty OK, but the summer isn't that long (which is good if you are an overclocker though). I would like to visit New Zealand sometime, the home of Peter Jackson. I've been a big fan of him for a long time. I have seen all his movies except Forgotten Silver but it will be released this summer on DVD in Sweden.

Have you seen some of his first works
"Bad Taste" & "Meet the Feebles"

KingJackal

14-06-2002, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by Deviant

Have you seen some of his first works
"Bad Taste" & "Meet the Feebles"

:eek: :eek:
Hahahhaaaaa, hehe, heh :D
Guess who has.... :D
( LOL @ Bad Taste )

I.R

14-06-2002, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by _N_
what's wrong with Sweden, it's a cool place? :)

anyway, what's cone of death?
you got me thinking of putting a cone air filter onto an air intake for my fans now, :D

Okay..... lets clear this up..... My "WTF!?!?!?" wasn't meant as "Sweden a stink place bro" it was meant as "whoa overclockers nz now has an international reputation with international members and stuff" :D
I haven't been to Sweden so I can't say if it's stink or cool :p

"Cone of death" = a cone going from the side of your case directly over the HSF..... that way you get air that hasn't run over other components and you get to leave the side of your case on :D

kallekill

17-06-2002, 04:55 AM

Of course I've seen Meet the feebles and Bad Taste :) I even saw Bad Taste in the theater when it premiered here in Sweden. Braindead is my favourite though. It's hard to find it uncut on DVD but they are going to release it on dvd this summer over here and i'm pretty sure it's uncut.

kallekill

17-06-2002, 11:24 AM

Back to topic.

I've decided not to mess with the thermal pad after all. I read that you will void your warranty if you remove it, and since my temperature seems normal I don't want to change anything. Maybe if I decide to overclock to 2.4 Ghz in the future I have to remove it, but I think 2.1 will do for a while.

Thanks everyone for your answers.

Kalle

Ragnor

17-06-2002, 07:44 PM

Void your warranty if you remove the pad.. what the hell..? I don't know what type of warranties you have in sweden.. but

.. taking the crappy pad off the heatsink is the first thing you should do with a new heatsink...

If you remove your heatsink at some stage, you'll notice the pad doesn't usually last more then one or two removals of the heatsink unit before it's stuffed..

Arctic silver or even just normal thermal grease could get you a 5 degree C temp decrease, over the pad.

kallekill

17-06-2002, 10:43 PM

I read that stuff about voiding the warranty on Intel's U.S webpage. It also said that if you remove the heatsink you have to get a new thermal pad from Intel.

I.R

17-06-2002, 11:13 PM

d00d!!!!! If you want to do a "proper" job of OCing you've got to "get under the hood" and void that warranty ;)

fritzman

01-07-2002, 06:39 PM

No doubt Vantec Stealths are expensive here alright..... $25 each is the best I've seen, but thankfully I can get some from the USA @ $6.50 each...... about half price. I'll let you know what they are like.

On the temp side....... I wouldn't be at all concerned..... 1.8a (@ 2.25) running case temp of 27 and cpu idle of 42.5. I can't wait to get it down with some decent airflow.

Gh0s7 L3mUr

01-07-2002, 08:16 PM

Are you people forgetting something??

He wants to cool things down and yet keep his rig quiet...

H2O

That's right.

If there is a cost ristriction involved. Do it the ghetto way. Heater core, secondhand or home made water blocks (but I think Tojja (http://www.liquidcc.co.nz) delivers to Sweeden :D), ghetto reservoir, pump, tubing and your done.

And hell if your rig doesn't leave home much you can always dig a reservoir outside (at least 5 feet down), install a slightly more powerful pump buried with the reservoir and volla. No noise with the pump being outside. No need for a radiator as the temp underground is pretty stable and low (and if the reservoir is ig enough there wont be a great deal of change even with the warm water that is being pumped into the reservoir).

In summory whatever you do, may it be wet. :D

But there isn't much wrong with your temps, so you may feel h2o is an overkill.

jeef

16-07-2002, 10:57 AM

im runnin a p4 1.6 @ 1.6... looking at MBM ive got 3 temp readings, im not sure which is which be on a relativly light load they read 30, 68, 60
thats in C... so i duno y yall worryin about 40...

its my work comp so its stock fan and all that... stability, no problem, never crashes (well, im runnin it on windows, so yeh, it does crash...)

but even so, im not sure 68,60 is normal... after a bit of work that 68 floats to 70...

any ideas?
(if it helps, the comp is from computerfuture)

SecretSquirrel

16-07-2002, 11:38 AM

30 is your ambiwent temp, thats terrible, but not deadly...

60 is your idle, and thats bloody digusting, get some case fans and suckblow!

68-70 is your load temp, and thats getting on to waterboiling temps, bro!