ToiletSeat
28-07-2002, 11:42 AM
doh!! ok here's a BIG BIG BIG one :) but it's one hell of a goodie and got me.... ne help appreciated guys...
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this is what i sent to people i was trying to get help from but without any success... so it's formal :)
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I am experiencing difficulties with my line while connected to the internet, most noticably during gaming (such as while playing the ever popular first-person-shooter "CounterStrike").
I have always had problems with the phone line regardless of what modem/computer/isp I use as I have tried to fix this problem NUMEROUS times before, but it is REALLY annoying now and I am at a point where I will do almost anything for it to be fixed!
Here are my system specs as of now:
Windows2000 [With all crucial automatic updates off "Windows Update" eg. SP2 etc]
Abit KT7A-RAID motherboard [With latest 4in1 drivers]
AMD Athlon 1.333GHZ
256MB CAS3 SDRAM
External Dynalink V1456VQE 56K/V.90 Voice/Fax Modem [With latest firmware and driver updates off www.dynalink.com.au]
Modem is connected on COM1. There is nothing on COM2. The mouse is USB. Keyboard on PS/2. There are no system IRQ conflicts on this system. PSU is an enermax 350W.
I have tried another 2 different modems. I have tried a different computer with completely different hardware. I have tried various ISPS, including Paradise, Xtra, Ihug, Globe, and Clear. I have also tried formatting the HDD and reinstalling everything - the problem still exsists. I have tried resetting CMOS on the motehrboard and updated the BIOS. The problem exists whether I am on Win98 or Win2000 - I have tried both OS's. I have tried having several friends over with their whole computer and modem and using their ISP/settings etc - ie. just using my line - and the problem still exists!!!
The problem is that the line keeps on "dropping" for approximately 30 seconds or so. Sometimes more... up to 60seconds even or longer! It does vary and is completely random it seems. After this time period, the connection is "alive" again and starts transferring data. This is noticable on an external modem easily as you can see the "SD" and "RD" (send and receive of data) as lights flashing. This problem happens all the time whenever I am online, and occurs widely as mentioned - can vary between just 2-3 minutes between each time it happens, or sometimes occurs every 10mins or so. However, lately the problem has become worse and at random times started just "dropping out" altogether, and it never becomes "alive" again at all!!! But yet, I'm still "connected" - so then I have to go to disconnect myself and then reconnect to Xtra again for it to work. This is extremely annoying as I can't leave things downloading as sometimes I will just get "dropped" (but not disconnected - cause if the connection is disconnected, it will automatically reconnect and start downloading again but now of course it doesn't).
I have had my line checked for line/ground noise etc by telecom 3 times already in the past. They say the line is fine, and because I called them up 3 times to check it out they just kinda left it and got annoyed I suppose but that's because they didn't do anything about it or really give me any feedback since I was not with Xtra back then, but now I am :)
Also, something else that may help you with this problem, is that when I play Counterstrike, my ping to most servers (all NZL ones) is usually around 130-200 on a full server. And I get barely any loss: a bit like 2 or 3. But choke does range from anywhere usually from around 5-70!!! But many people say 50 choke is normal for 56k??? The thing is when the connection "drops", it just lags/freezes there till it becomes "alive" again, and then obviously choke is like 100+!!! for a split second or two till it regains itself. But this problem is not really counterstrike related, it's the actual phone line I believe since it applies to anything I do over the net cause I notice this "dropping out" all the time eg. surfing, any gaming, downloading - someone correct me if I'm wrong.
We also have 2 lines in our building (business on ground floor for the parents and our house is on top of it).
One line is used for our business on the ground floor and is a business line. It has 3 connections in the house: 1) Downstairs in the dairy as a phone 2) On the other side of the house as a phone 3) Here in this room as a phone
The other line is used purely for the internet and is a residential line in the house. It has just 1 connection in the house: 1) Here in this room for the computer.
There is nothing connected to the line (eg. double jacks, faxes, etc). It is JUST the line from the modem. However, the two jacks at the wall (the one for the phone line, and the one for the internet) are RIGHT beside each other. I am wondering if this has something to do with it?
Also the phone line (1st line) in the dairy is used for EFTPOS transactions as well. Does this have anything to do with the problem? I tried to see if at the time of an EFTPOS transaction if it affects my connection, but it doesn't appear to. But can you confirm?
Another thing is, I can "restrict" my line to 33.6K only. I found this out on 56.com. By adding the INIT string to the settings for the modem (in control panel in windows) "+MS=11" it allows me to connect @ 33,000BPS. When I do this, the connection is stable - it doesn't drop. But it's slow of course which is useless as then my ping in Counterstrike definately sits around 300ms now and it's far too laggy to play.
Is there something I can do to improve this problem? Highspeed options are out of the question as they are currently not available in my area (includes dsl, cable, isdn). Ihug's satelitte service is only downstream so upstream the problem still occurred as I had the service for a while, but disconnected the service as it got a bit expensive and showed no improvement for gaming obviously.
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OK!!! Any help guys? Damn this problem is sooooo annoying I can't do anything online with meaningful purpose :) It just kills my time online... I somtimes can't even be bothered to come on!!!
Sweet, c'mon let's see some replies :P :cool:
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this is what i sent to people i was trying to get help from but without any success... so it's formal :)
===================
I am experiencing difficulties with my line while connected to the internet, most noticably during gaming (such as while playing the ever popular first-person-shooter "CounterStrike").
I have always had problems with the phone line regardless of what modem/computer/isp I use as I have tried to fix this problem NUMEROUS times before, but it is REALLY annoying now and I am at a point where I will do almost anything for it to be fixed!
Here are my system specs as of now:
Windows2000 [With all crucial automatic updates off "Windows Update" eg. SP2 etc]
Abit KT7A-RAID motherboard [With latest 4in1 drivers]
AMD Athlon 1.333GHZ
256MB CAS3 SDRAM
External Dynalink V1456VQE 56K/V.90 Voice/Fax Modem [With latest firmware and driver updates off www.dynalink.com.au]
Modem is connected on COM1. There is nothing on COM2. The mouse is USB. Keyboard on PS/2. There are no system IRQ conflicts on this system. PSU is an enermax 350W.
I have tried another 2 different modems. I have tried a different computer with completely different hardware. I have tried various ISPS, including Paradise, Xtra, Ihug, Globe, and Clear. I have also tried formatting the HDD and reinstalling everything - the problem still exsists. I have tried resetting CMOS on the motehrboard and updated the BIOS. The problem exists whether I am on Win98 or Win2000 - I have tried both OS's. I have tried having several friends over with their whole computer and modem and using their ISP/settings etc - ie. just using my line - and the problem still exists!!!
The problem is that the line keeps on "dropping" for approximately 30 seconds or so. Sometimes more... up to 60seconds even or longer! It does vary and is completely random it seems. After this time period, the connection is "alive" again and starts transferring data. This is noticable on an external modem easily as you can see the "SD" and "RD" (send and receive of data) as lights flashing. This problem happens all the time whenever I am online, and occurs widely as mentioned - can vary between just 2-3 minutes between each time it happens, or sometimes occurs every 10mins or so. However, lately the problem has become worse and at random times started just "dropping out" altogether, and it never becomes "alive" again at all!!! But yet, I'm still "connected" - so then I have to go to disconnect myself and then reconnect to Xtra again for it to work. This is extremely annoying as I can't leave things downloading as sometimes I will just get "dropped" (but not disconnected - cause if the connection is disconnected, it will automatically reconnect and start downloading again but now of course it doesn't).
I have had my line checked for line/ground noise etc by telecom 3 times already in the past. They say the line is fine, and because I called them up 3 times to check it out they just kinda left it and got annoyed I suppose but that's because they didn't do anything about it or really give me any feedback since I was not with Xtra back then, but now I am :)
Also, something else that may help you with this problem, is that when I play Counterstrike, my ping to most servers (all NZL ones) is usually around 130-200 on a full server. And I get barely any loss: a bit like 2 or 3. But choke does range from anywhere usually from around 5-70!!! But many people say 50 choke is normal for 56k??? The thing is when the connection "drops", it just lags/freezes there till it becomes "alive" again, and then obviously choke is like 100+!!! for a split second or two till it regains itself. But this problem is not really counterstrike related, it's the actual phone line I believe since it applies to anything I do over the net cause I notice this "dropping out" all the time eg. surfing, any gaming, downloading - someone correct me if I'm wrong.
We also have 2 lines in our building (business on ground floor for the parents and our house is on top of it).
One line is used for our business on the ground floor and is a business line. It has 3 connections in the house: 1) Downstairs in the dairy as a phone 2) On the other side of the house as a phone 3) Here in this room as a phone
The other line is used purely for the internet and is a residential line in the house. It has just 1 connection in the house: 1) Here in this room for the computer.
There is nothing connected to the line (eg. double jacks, faxes, etc). It is JUST the line from the modem. However, the two jacks at the wall (the one for the phone line, and the one for the internet) are RIGHT beside each other. I am wondering if this has something to do with it?
Also the phone line (1st line) in the dairy is used for EFTPOS transactions as well. Does this have anything to do with the problem? I tried to see if at the time of an EFTPOS transaction if it affects my connection, but it doesn't appear to. But can you confirm?
Another thing is, I can "restrict" my line to 33.6K only. I found this out on 56.com. By adding the INIT string to the settings for the modem (in control panel in windows) "+MS=11" it allows me to connect @ 33,000BPS. When I do this, the connection is stable - it doesn't drop. But it's slow of course which is useless as then my ping in Counterstrike definately sits around 300ms now and it's far too laggy to play.
Is there something I can do to improve this problem? Highspeed options are out of the question as they are currently not available in my area (includes dsl, cable, isdn). Ihug's satelitte service is only downstream so upstream the problem still occurred as I had the service for a while, but disconnected the service as it got a bit expensive and showed no improvement for gaming obviously.
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OK!!! Any help guys? Damn this problem is sooooo annoying I can't do anything online with meaningful purpose :) It just kills my time online... I somtimes can't even be bothered to come on!!!
Sweet, c'mon let's see some replies :P :cool: