SWAT Lan No.1

[O'Neill]

SWAT Lan

From the people that brought you NCGN 008-010

OCI Communication
in partnership with
Wolfman Networks

presents

SWAT Lan


6pm Friday to 4pm Sunday 28-30 May 2004
Main Complex, Blue Skies Conference and Events Centre

Cost

Duration Prepay Pre-register Door Sales

1 Day $15 $17 $20

2 Days $30 $32 $35

Registrations open 26 April close 27 May


For further details Check out
SWAT Lan Homepage (http://swatlan.orcon.net.nz) (your first port of call for info on the event)
or
Wolfman Computer Entertainment (http://networks.wolfmanentertainment.com/events/swat/) (link fixed)

[KingJackal]

OCI Communication link doesn't mention SWAT LAN.

Wolfman Entertainment link is broken, correct link:
http://www.wolfmanentertainment.com
?

...but that site doesn't have any info either ( and every last one of the links on the main page was a dead link :rolleyes:.


You know, April 1 was a few weeks ago... :p

[O'Neill]

Come on KJ it takes you centuries to update the L3 website
give me some time to make a page, clean up the code, update the site, and oh yea get Orcon to tell me my password

[NZSnake]

I'm working on it!
I'll do the signup page too while im at it

**puts on Lipps Inc**

[KingJackal]

Originally posted by O'Neill
Come on KJ it takes you centuries to update the L3 website
give me some time to make a page, clean up the code, update the site, and oh yea get Orcon to tell me my password

LOL, that's got nothing to do with it. I don't announce LANs without updating the site - I was just thinking that if people come through here and think 'that sounds cool', they'll follow your links and find nothing ( which will no doubt confuse them ).

Given you don't have the pw etc for the site yet, just put ALL the info in your forum threads, and leave a link in with 'more info watch this space' or something.
( would be less confusing for potential LANers that don't know the situation )


You've gotta admit it's strange to see a webpage big enough to require selecting your local mirror, yet small enough that it doesn't have ANY content :p

[NZSnake]

im working on the site... its a work in progress (somewhere there it should have new site under construction)... dont worry, info link is at http://networks.wolfmanentertainment.com/events/swat/

:)

[KingJackal]

Ah sweet. Maybe just direct link to that then?

( if that will remain the SWAT sub-section of the site as it gets built up? )

[=/adrenaline/=]

Sorry guys I won't be attending this one or future LANs :( as I start my job in Wellington on the 10th May.

[Tobiaz[nz]]

is that template monstar template or what?

[O'Neill]

IMPORTANT
LAN ON HOLD

Due to venue issues lan on hold
may still be the same date different venue
or different date same venue

Sorry about this guys
I thought I had the venue booked
but it turns out their online booking for didnt register my request
I am trying to negotiate with the venue for alternate arrangements

[KingJackal]

:(

Gotta hate webpages that don't actually correlate in any way whatsoever with the organisation behind them...

Rage em hard ;)

[Solid Snake]

Come on KJ it takes you centuries to update the L3 website
give me some time to make a page, clean up the code, update the site, and oh yea get Orcon to tell me my password Yeah it's my fault too. Since we aren't doing any events that are coming in recently, the thought of updating the website hasn't been there. I dunno, but L3 isn't really a news site ... although the future may be a little different....

[O'Neill]

LAN BACK ON :D :D :D

SAME DATE
SAME PLACE
DIFFERENT BUILDING

28-30 May 2004
Blue Skies
Main Complex

Registration Opens 26 April

For details
SWAT LAN (http://swatlan.orcon.net.nz/index.html)
:D

[KingJackal]

Not sure if this would be better in PM/email. But please everyone remember to refrain from 'OMG YUO TARD SUCK! HAHA' posts ;).


Copyright

When something is written/created, it becomes the property of of the author. You don't NEED to put a 'copywrite' sign on something for it to have copywrite - it gets that automatically. The copywrite sign is used to state your intent to protect the content, and to advertise the fact that the content is not in the 'public domain' ( touchy issue itself ).


Unexpected charges

No idea on what the legal line on an unexpected bill for labour which you believed was voluntary is. But it would certainly be bad form to bill somebody for something which was assumed to be voluntary.

The same for charging for switch-hire without negotiating that first.

[imdying]

Just curious Josh (2 much thinking = josh?), did you enjoy the last 3 or 4 NCGNs?

[NZSnake]

... Um, On a slightly more posative note, I reprogrammed half my site yesterday and er, Signup's are online here (http://networks.wolfmanentertainment.com/events/swat/signup.html)...

[immorta|]

seems this thread has turned into a mud slinging match... shame really :(

[KingJackal]

Just out of curiosity, why are there so many 404's there? The:
- 'About Us'
- 'Solutions'
- 'Support'
- 'Downloads'
- 'Contacts'
- 'Site Map'
..links are all 404's. The only links that do work are 'Home', 'Search' and 'Solutions'. Is it a CMS template that has extra stuff that you don't need, or are those pages that you're working on?

( hard to tell, because I don't know what Wolfnetworks is without the 'About Us'/'Help'/'FAQ' pages ;) )

In case you're wondering, I'm still curious to know what Wolfnetworks actually IS, but it's kinda hard to find out, ( or is it a secret, hehe :D ).

[O'Neill]

Originally posted by KingJackal
Just out of curiosity, why are there so many 404's there? The:
- 'About Us'
- 'Solutions'
- 'Support'
- 'Downloads'
- 'Contacts'
- 'Site Map'
..links are all 404's. The only links that do work are 'Home', 'Search' and 'Solutions'. Is it a CMS template that has extra stuff that you don't need, or are those pages that you're working on?

( hard to tell, because I don't know what Wolfnetworks is without the 'About Us'/'Help'/'FAQ' pages ;) )

In case you're wondering, I'm still curious to know what Wolfnetworks actually IS, but it's kinda hard to find out, ( or is it a secret, hehe :D ).
as with the swat and OCI sites it is a work in progress

[Geek4Life]

I think it can be translated to:
One forum member teamed up with another forum member bring you another lan.

[KingJackal]

Originally posted by Geek4Life
I think it can be translated to:
One forum member teamed up with another forum member bring you another lan.

Ahh, gotcha - so those are personal websites, not 'new business' websites. Heh, my bad - got the wrong impression... :)

[imdying]

Well hey, if SWAT is half as much fun as the last NCGN, she'll be golden :D

[siti]

This post is from Matt (using sitis name)

I cant see why there is a big issue here. For years now I have desired to be a part of in medium to large well planned Lan events, which NCGN could not deliver. (I had to pass over the orginising to Josh as I had to commit my spare time to my 2 jobs, then Josh seemed to not have the time to plan future events / update the site, then NCGN was handed over to Simon who WAS MOTIVATED and had the time and brought us more good LANS) I have had alot of discussions with Simon and fully support what he wants to do with OCI & SWAT because without the HUGE amount of work he has put into NCGN it would have died and by starting SWAT lans and *hopefully* being well planned we should see an awesome future to lanning (alongside L3 and the like of course). Multiplayer Computer games and consoles are the future so lets make Chch a model for other citys to follow and get more well planned LANs happening.

I was the very original creator of Both the NCGN concept, The NCGN name and the website. (therefore must have any legal right if any to these things - if anyone has). I fully support Simon in what he is trying to do and if he makes financial gain from SWAT then i say good on you si because you have been the one who has taken the concept by the horns, put in huge amount of time and you only are the one who deserves it. Both myself and Josh were in the position to do somthing with it but it was obviously not that important to either of us.

-Josh, dont panic, I have nothing against You, lets just look forward to better gaming in the future.

[NZSnake]

Originally posted by KingJackal
Ahh, gotcha - so those are personal websites, not 'new business' websites. Heh, my bad - got the wrong impression... :)

WolfNetworks is my business name, With which i do programming / network setup and managment for businesses and such, The site's a work in progress, Don't worry KJ it's getting there, you just cant see it all ;)

The sections are there, I'm just adding content and what not as it's not the final version of the site, if you notice up the top left hand corner theres a different domain than what you see :)

[siti]

Originally posted by 2 much thinking
I don't think NCGN would have died, just take a look at L3 who is in a similar phase with regard to Lan frequency. Sure we didn't have as many people but that is the difference in location which we decided on.

<pedantic mode>
Yes, you did create the NCGN website. However we both had a vision of forming a Lan and it was by chance that we got talking and decided to work together to get one up and running. If I remember correctly it was I who thought of the name NCGN, the other option was RGN, each representing North Canterbury Gaming Network and Rangiora Gaming Network. You thought NCGN sounded better so we went with it.

This leaves us on neutral ground and I'm happy with that.
</pedantic mode>

I have no problems with Simon making money from his new Lan. The problem is OCI Communications has presented NCGN with a bill for $223.75. I have detailed why NCGN will not be paying this in a PM to simon and will be in contact with you soon to show you the financial statements. Never in the time previous to Simon helping would we spend $106 on 'Event Staff Clothing' :eek: There are others but Im probably boring people enough as it is.

Im not panicking, just bringing details to light and warning others.

I do not see what you are warning others about. The lan has been getting better and better, due to great organisation skills & free time of simon. By putting it as part of his business simon can save money, therefore buy more things like server-parts, switches, spare lan cables, better locations etc.

From what I know that bill is because you and your family did not pay for some of or all of the lans, even though us organisers paid for every lan. Although this is between you and simon - a personal issue!

To conclude the way simon is running it everyone wins.

Josh: I don't see the problem, it seemed as if you were not intersted any more by not even showing up to the last lan.

[imdying]

I hope everybody remembers to come to the SWAT lan and see what all the fuss is about :D ;)

[immorta|]

Originally posted by imdying
I hope everybody remembers to come to the SWAT lan and see what all the fuss is about :D ;)

hehe, yea... the way this thread is going there will be a confrontation at the front door :D

On a more serious note, keep all you personal and business issues to yourselves guys.

It's a LAN notification thread, NOT a Lan slamming one!
If you got issues, do it around a private table - not a public arena

The excuse "To warn others" is a crock!, it sounds more like you are airing your dirty laundry in public, and possibly persuade other not to attend.

Me, I'm keep for a LAN no matter who organises it, I've been to L3's, NCGN and the recent Sigma. I dont care who organises it, just as long as we can get some gaming done, and it's run efficiently I'm happy. (not LAN whore status yet, but I do aspire ;) )

There's more than enough room for all of the Lan organisations, so lets let each one take it's turn without any fuss eh?!?!

[immorta|]

Originally posted by 2 much thinking
'Ignorance is bliss'

Uh huh, and I'd rather not know about your 'information' thanks.
There are things that I dont need to know, nor care about when signing up for a LAN, and you haven't said anything that I need to know.

I understand you have some 'issues' with the organiser(s) of SWAT. Just take it up with them personally, not publicly :)

Dunno about anyone else, but I'm keen to see how the LAN goes. If it flops it flops, if it goes, I'll be in for more :D (goto build up that LAN whore status fast :cool: )

[MoNk]

Good for you warning other lans who might get people to help out with organisation 2 much thinking.
Springing a bill on somebody without prior discussion is unprofessional. I'm sure he's learnt from this mistake, and you shouldn't pay for his mistake.

[siti]

Oh well. Lets start on a fresh note...

Will it should be a cool lan I am really looking forward to it. Especially Ut2004 onsluaught and assault. :D.

[immorta|]

Originally posted by siti
Oh well. Lets start on a fresh note...

Will it should be a cool lan I am really looking forward to it. Especially Ut2004 onsluaught and assault. :D.


hell yea!

[Sumo]

About time you took your dirty laundry inside. I know I don't have to read the threads, however they are my forums too.

Next time i hope for f()ks sake the mods lock a thread such as this sooner.

If you have a problem, sort it out like gentlemen and not children. If it is a matter of laws, go see lawyers or mediation, hell OCNZ forums are not the Disputes Tribunal, however i am sure pople have made up their own minds by your behaviour.

My $2.50.

[siti]

Well we almost need another fresh start ;)

Please from now on no more sillyness :)
_________________________________

[siti]

Nice work on the site O'Neill :)

I will have a teamspeak server running at the lan so anyone with microphones please please bring them.

I should be able to do better in NFSU due to me completing single player, anyone else wanting to compete in that tournament should really play the single player!

[NZSnake]

In more posative news, I finally got round to ordering me a new server from my contacts at Dell (my old one fried itself :() ^_^ so we should have 2.8GHz PowerEdge Server Goodness :D

[immorta|]

Is there a list of people attending somewhere?

It would be nice to know who is going :)

[NZSnake]

Originally posted by immorta|
Is there a list of people attending somewhere?

It would be nice to know who is going :)

Yeah... I could probably rig something up, Was on my list of things to do...

EDIT: Alright... list is here (http://networks.wolfmanentertainment.com/events/swat/signuplist.html)

[O'Neill]

WE HAVE FOOD AND DRINK ON SALE AT THE VENUE

[imdying]

What sort of food? What cost? Available when? Quantity?

[k14]

Signed up just before. Can't wait, in some desperate need of major lannage, haven't had any for about 6 months or so.

[O'Neill]

Pizzas ( Dinnerplate size) $7.50
Pies $1.50
Savouries $1.00
Bread Rolls $3.00
1.5l of coca~cola brand softdrink $2.00
Cans of coca~cola brand softdrink $1.00

other food stuffs by popular request

[O'Neill]

WWW.SWAT.NET.NZ (http://www.swat.net.nz)

[O'Neill]

Right guys heres the problem
I need at least 25 people on each of the nights to pay for the venue costs
If I don't have that many people signed up by next wednesday (19th may) I will have no choice but to cancel the event
I'd hate to have to do that so all those considering coming please signup asap and tell others
I've heard tell that the prices are a little on the high side for some people truth is even if everyone paid the door sales cost the event would loose money

[immorta|]

Originally posted by O'Neill
... truth is even if everyone paid the door sales cost the event would loose money

Then why run it?

I thought the idea of a LAN (or even any business) was to at least break even, and if you do make extra out of it, it goes into hardware/upgrades etc? (yup, the never ending black hole for your hard earned cash!)

[MaZeR]

I'm sure he means that if everyone that's signed up right now paid the door price it wouldn't break even. Hence the minimum number requirement.

[imdying]

I hope you're coming mazer!

[MaZeR]

So do I!

[O'Neill]

Originally posted by immorta|
Then why run it?

Because I want to do something for the computer community
And I want to put my management skills into practice

[KingJackal]

If you're having problems getting numbers, perhaps one thing to look at is your marketing strategy.

Where are you advertising the LAN?

An answer of 'just here' would probably indicate you have some work to do ;).

[O'Neill]

Nope not just here.
I have an extensive marketing campaign across a wide variety of media, which is due to kick into high gear on Monday.
Plus the bulk of signups usually happen in the last week

[imdying]

Sign up roadkill and L3_dog.... neither are on the net, both keen to come.

[O'Neill]

Originally posted by imdying
Sign up roadkill and L3_dog.... neither are on the net, both keen to come.
Done and dunner

[NZSnake]

Come on guys, KEEP SIGNING UP :D
Got 8 odd signup's all on the same day in the weekend...

Yuo can do it!! :)

[siti]

I have downloaded a sniper arena mod for ut2004. It is able to make the sniper rifle as fast firing as the original ut. But you can change everything, so I have made a ut2004 sniper rifle model, sound, scope but the scope is totally open. That put with the UT Classic mutator makes for a great CTF-Face match. We will defintly have to play this a bit... Also I am d/ling the newly released CBP for ut2004. I'll have to tell you my thoughts on it though ;)

Everyone that is going please invite people that would be interested :-) it would be great if we could get a semi-large lan!

[imdying]

bump

SWAT Lan
6pm Friday 28th to 4pm Sunday 30th May 2004
Main Complex, Blue Skies Conference and Events Centre

Cost:
Duration Prepay Pre-register Door Sales
1 Day $15 prepay $17 prereg $20 on the door
2 Days $30 prepay $32 prereg $35 on the door

Be there!

[O'Neill]

An update on the event

we have just ordered the final parts for the No. 1 gaming server
which will be assembled on wednesday tested thursday and thrashed over the weekend

[O'Neill]

Server parts have arrived and it has been assembled and tested

free can ok coke to the first person to come up to me at the lan and tell me which radio station ran advertisments for the event


SEE YOU THERE TOMORROW

[NZSnake]

Yeah i'll leave the registration page up till like 4pm tomorrow.... C ya there guys...

[.weasel.]

I'll come if im feeling better: i have the flu :( :mad:

[k14]

Ok all set to go, can't wait, except one thing. I am sure I saw the instructions on how to get to the place a few weeks ago, but can't seem to find them now :rolleyes: .

Can anyone tell me where to go to get there? It is on main north rd isn't it?

[mird-OC]

http://www.blueskies.org.nz/map.html

It's on Williams Street (continuation on Main North Road) on the right just as you come into Kaiapoi... pretty hard to miss.

[k14]

Cool, thanks. Now for some lannage :D

[mird-OC]

Well I got home about noon, having to pick the gf up from the airport in the afternoon. Not bad for a Friday night... pity everyone seemed to be turning up as I was leaving, but never-the-less.

Some good UT2K4 blastage, and some rude and totally foul aircraft tactics in 1942. Fully stocked with Linux ISOs and game demos despite the fairly sparse shares... although I never have enough space. I may have ****ed my CD burner, but nevermind.

*gg* :D

P.S. OMG k14 looks like Stevo from Jackass!

[k14]

Originally posted by mird-OC
P.S. OMG k14 looks like Stevo from Jackass!

Hahahahaha, never heard that before, lol.

Yeah it was pretty a good lan. Good to meet mird.

Got owned in UT2004 and then did some owning myself in BF1942. Some good leeching, guttered I only had around 10gigs free on my hdd's.

Thanks O'Neil and everyone who organised it.

[imdying]

Excellent LAN, no power problems, no network issues. Everyone played the same game at the same times, making for excellent gaming. Only thing I'd change is limiting it to sat/sun so as to concentrate the number of people there at once :)

[milla_kazuya]

Yeah it was good times, I need a new hdd though.

Hopefully more people for the next one, but it was still a good lan.

[O'Neill]

Well Heres my wrap up of the event

a little more quite than i would have liked
lots of great gaming
a heap of fun

It takes far too long to clean up (the worst part of running a lan)

[KingJackal]

Originally posted by O'Neill
It takes far too long to clean up (the worst part of running a lan)

Yeah, I hear that. I've just gotten used to starting cleanup around 10am and finishing around 5pm Sundays. Makes you realise how good a not-carpet floor is too (cos you can just mop/sweep).

[siti]

I totally agree with Imdying, it would be better if the even was just early saturday to sunday afternoon.

Also I am going to look on the internet to get the best version of DC++, because different versions vary alot in speeds. Because some of those linux ISOs took too long to transfer at 300k a second ;)

The gaming was lots of fun :)

[TRIGER]

how many people in total went ?

[O'Neill]

total of 23 people including organisers ME siti and snake
and attendees

Mird
Arch Vampire
Bumpz_nz
K14
$3bill
r@|ph
****an
danielkiwi
mazer
commanderk
weasle
god
imdying
roadkill
milla_kazuya
zero
thore
MrTHC
inlbme
Dog

[MaZeR]

While I couldn't be there long, the highlight had to be O'Neill spewing at the builder for unplugging his cord. To be honest I was a bit shocked and expected everyones elses machines to go quiet *pats UPS* But yeah, a classic none the less, hehe.

Oh and big ups to my BF CTF team! Yay team! :) :) :)

[O'Neill]

I would have been good if the manager of blue skies had told me about that guy or if the builder had answered me when i asked him if i could help him
I mean some guy just walks in and up to a power point that i had had an extention cord plugged into that was origionally powering the servers and just yanks out the cord without so much as uttering a word to me

[Z3RO 0]

Was a good lan, although it was very quiet. Hopefulley there will be another L3 soon (Hint, hint :p)

[NZSnake]

Even though i was heading in and out all the time while i was actually there it was good fun :)

[O'Neill]

Official review of the event available here (http://swatlan.orcon.net.nz/no1review.html)

See you at the next event

Details announced this weekend
watch the SWAT website (http://www.swat.net.nz) for the latest