AMD reports loss

[varkk]

It's here, oh well at least they aren't inflating their earnings to impress investors, like some comapnies...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/index/0,1008,1271617a28,FF.html

[KingJackal]

Has AMD ever made a profit? I'm not sure they've even registered a single year in the black yet.....
:eek: :confused:

[Agent666]

I think in the past they have made good profits during certain quarters but then been caned during the rest of the year..........

[BeachBum]

Haven't heard whether intel made a profit? Was AMDs loss as big as that of Fontera?

[dumass]

Didnt intel buy a whole lot of AMD shares at one stage??

that way Intel lost money aswell :D

[Grrr!!]

I think AMD is banking on the success of the Hammer and Barton processors. This would allow them to make a loss now.

[varkk]

Well, I think that they made a profit in the previous twelve months or something, but I think the more important thing is the loss of marketshare they are reporting, while at the same time Intel is reported to have gained marktetshare. Also they aren't expecting next quarter to be much better as there is alot of inventory which they have sold, but hasn't made it onto the consumers yet, so computer makers still have good reserves of AMD chips.

[Grrr!!]

AMD really needs to gain OEM acceptance to grow. Currently only the Budget and the Enthusiast market will actually look at them a lot. If a couple of OEMs would be behind, one could sell to stupid people, who are always the best customers!

[BeachBum]

Originally posted by dumass
Didnt intel buy a whole lot of AMD shares at one stage??

that way Intel lost money aswell :D


Well Fonterra only lost 50 megabucks and I see AMD was short of 185 M$ .. who knows how either Intel or AMD shares are divvied? Likely Willy Gates has shares in Intel as WinXP is optimized for that brand cpu. It is sad to see a company such as AMD not make a decent .. or any profit. Seems to be the way for most technology stock these days.

[Elle T]

AMD have been around since 1964 tho, and haven't always made
processors.
So i don't think they've always lost money.

Still is a worry, they are throwing all they've got at the Hammer and i for one will be buying a Hammer.

Can't wait to change my status to Hammerite :)

*EDIT Argh spelling*

[_N_]

intel lost money too,

also everyone is loosing money in US right now.

[BeachBum]

Originally posted by Elle T
AMD have been around since 1964 tho, and haven't always made
processors.
So i don't think they've always lost money.

I'm not great on history ... 'spose I could have looked it up but what did AMD make before hot chips?

[Elle T]

I'd say mostly Communication and Instrumentation devices.

[Grrr!!]

Before good chips... Crap chips. You mustn't forget that the current Athlons are the 7th generation of AMD processor, so they must've been making them for a while!

[BeachBum]

Many years ago ... my first PC was a 12MHz intel 8088. In those days AMD did make cpu but to use one was to invite all sorts of stability problems. Then many of the bios available were illegal clones of the IBM original and supported whatever IBM wanted them to. IBM even took bios makers to court for infringing copyright! Now PC builders do have a choice, speed is unbelievable when compared with 12MHz and stability is less of an issue.

Technology has not left AMD in the cold nor has it favoured them above Intel. Healthy competition between the major chip makers can only benefit both the industry and the user.

[Grrr!!]

What a fast processor you had back then ;).

[Gh0s7 L3mUr]

Damn :p

How many k of ram did you have in that scortcher (sp?)? :D

[BeachBum]

Originally posted by Grrr!!
What a fast processor you had back then ;).

It was too! It was the fastest that money could buy then. Most 8086 cpu ran at 10MHz. Still I leant about computers first from a Digital Equipment (DEC) PDP-8e where there was 32Kb .. yep, K of core memory. Any code I wrote, Fortran II in those days, had to be configured to swap in and out of memory. Not only that but the PDP had a 12-bit word memory access and instuction set so if my mind wasn't scrambled by these difficulties it was when I bought a Spectravideo that ran both MSX and CP/M ... ah! .. CP/M. Digital Research that created CP/M joined mickysoft .. the guy is in charge today as Billy takes a back seat.

[Grrr!!]

What did that baby overclock to? :D

[BeachBum]

Originally posted by Grrr!!
What did that baby overclock to? :D


lol .. I don't think anyone had heard of such things then. I was trying to remember how much RAM it had .. think it initially had 64Mb , wow! :D Initially this PC only had two 360K floppies and you had the OS on one floppy .. or enough of it and the application on the other. MS word fitted onto a 360K floppy then .. v2.x. Not long after came the first version of Windoze .. v1.1 was what I tried. If you could actually do anything from this product before a reboot you must have cast some sort of wizardry on both the PC and Win1.1 :) I have used the original 9" floppy disks .. now they really were something else .. I'm not sure what though. :D

[Grrr!!]

I assume you mean 64KB of RAM, which was quite a lot it those days!

I wouldn't mind one of those cool 9" FDs though. They were awesome.
* Grrr!! wonders whether to install a 9" floppy drive on his comp.

[BeachBum]

Originally posted by Grrr!!
I assume you mean 64KB of RAM, which was quite a lot it those days!

I wouldn't mind one of those cool 9" FDs though. They were awesome.
* Grrr!! wonders whether to install a 9" floppy drive on his comp.

Yeah you are right, it was 64Kb. That was still twice as much memory as my work machine .. the PDP/8, which had 32K of core!

I have a small museum with a 9" floppy and drive. Ppl ask what it is. They also think the museum curator should be on display. :eek: I've not tried installing it though. How would it fit in my box? I'd have to make an enclosure and run the cables to the PC. Somehow don't think it would work anyway. :( My original 30Mb drive is there too .. opened to view what was then very upmarket technology. No matter, the spiders like my collection. :D