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2 much thinking
11-07-2002, 11:02 PM
this is probably a dumb question BUT lifes all about learning

I am most likely going to buy the Leadtek Ti4200 64mb. I don't think i need to spend the extra on myVIVO but it could be worth it if i plan on reselling, as you do.

what i want to know is can you use the DVI output with a DVI-VGA adapter and run a dual monitor setup. Im guessing Yes, but are there any limitations that this card has as far as a dual monitor display card?

cheers,

I.R
11-07-2002, 11:13 PM
WIth the myVIVO you can also run an extended desktop or clone on a TV...... is good if you have a big TV.... sux arse if you dont :rolleyes:

Volodkovich
11-07-2002, 11:16 PM
i think the Dvi wont let u run above 1600 x 1200...but im not sure, better check wif someone here running Nview with dual monitors. But then again, there shouldnt be that much problem if u dont run over 1600 x 1200.

2 much thinking
12-07-2002, 10:54 AM
ive just been talking to someone who used a GF3 Ti (not sure which one) running dual 19" monitors :D and he said the problems he had are:

you are limited by the capablilites and the lower monitor (ie if one can run at 85hz and the other at 75 for a particular resolution then you can only run both at 75. Also you could not have the taskbar on one monitor only.

just wondering if anyone knows weither this is still the case with GF4

SilverPriest
12-07-2002, 10:58 AM
GF4's have dual ramdacs.
2 screens, different resolutions 'n refresh rates :)

NTBlowz
12-07-2002, 11:03 AM
It all depend on softwares.... I don't think Win XP support two different refresh rate.

KingJackal
12-07-2002, 11:06 AM
GeForce3's can't do dual out..... WHAT were you saying about that friend of yours? ( Must be using a secondary video card for the other monitor )

DVI ports ( depending on the chipset they use ) are limited not to 1600 - BUT 1280!!! :eek:

This isn't normally an issue - as TFT LCD's are pretty g[H]3y, and don't really DO resolutions over 1280 yet. But for those using large CRT's, that kinda blows.

I'm not sure what chipset the Leadtek uses.....

( BTW, DVI's tend to be limited to either 1280 or 1600 depending on chipset, while the standard D-SUB ports can handle 2048x1538 :cool: ;) )

KingJackal
12-07-2002, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by NTBlowz
It all depend on softwares.... I don't think Win XP support two different refresh rate.

I remember using two different color depths, and two differnt resolutions, I'm pretty sure I was using two different refresh rates at one stage or another.....

Remember - it could be DRIVER related?

Deviant
12-07-2002, 12:44 PM
I'm running dual, and have different refresh rates, but I also run two different video cards, one pci, and one agp.

Solid Snake
12-07-2002, 01:33 PM
Monitors can be different refresh rate, colour depth, resolution on GF4 cards because I actually run it on my system.

Mmm, won't be useful unless you have a spare monitor, or if you particularly like to do 3dsmax & photoshop combo or a [h]ardcore website designer.

In games, turn off the other monitor because it won't get used unless they do something to make it work.

You can run 3rd party programs to change some WinXP native dual monitor support such as the task bar thing, or showing different pictures on each monitor...

Volodkovich
12-07-2002, 06:45 PM
do Radeon 8500's have dual RAMDACs?

RTY
20-07-2002, 04:08 PM
Yes 8500 have dual Ramdacs but not 8500le (budget models). If you want to run dual monitors with an 8500 le you MUST use the DVI out and D sub, so you can't run 2 CRTs.

Watch out for this distinction nearly caught me, until I decided that I can't afford a second monitor let alone a card that does dual. I got a Geforce 3 Ti 200 for $220 instead.

Gh0s7 L3mUr
20-07-2002, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by RTY
Yes 8500 have dual Ramdacs but not 8500le (budget models). If you want to run dual monitors with an 8500 le you MUST use the DVI out and D sub, so you can't run 2 CRTs.

Watch out for this distinction nearly caught me, until I decided that I can't afford a second monitor let alone a card that does dual. I got a Geforce 3 Ti 200 for $220 instead.

You and me both. :(

I'd just like to be able to afford a 19" so I don't have to squint at this annoying 15" anymore. :)

Sydog
20-07-2002, 06:25 PM
The Geforce will let you run 2 monitors with 2 refresh rates,color setting and rez. Currently I am running a 17" 107t at 1152x864x32 @75hz and a 15" trinitron at 1024x768x32 @85hz.

Only problems I have had is that the refresh rate seems to reset alot on my main monitor, and also it started t show my 15" as primary and was running taskbar on it.

Thats all fixed now and its all good, I just disable the 15" when I am playing a game unless it restricts mouse movement and then I just run dumeter on the other monitor, nothing can be more annoying then being in the middle of a firefight and the mouse goes off screen minimising the game

2 much thinking
21-07-2002, 04:08 PM
well i got it setup!!:D

i dont own 2 monitors just borrow my dads monitor which just happens to be the same 17" viewsonic i own. Im running them from a Leadtek GF4 64mb Ti4200.

The problems i mentioned at the start are not an issue. i can have the taskbar on one monitor and because they're the same monitor i dont have to worry about different resolutions.

1 thing i dont like about the E70 viewsonic is when the resolution rises the refresh rates drops off so much that it's just too painful to run it at anything higher than 1024*768 - this of course means that the restricted resolution of the DVI out is no problem.


mmmmmmm dual monitors :D (*damn im going to hate looking at only one monitor when dad wants his back - in about 2 hours:( )

Antallica
21-07-2002, 04:13 PM
Tell me people, is it possible to have dual monitors on my rig? I have a GF2 Ti (oc'ed to teh sh!t... of course :D).

Would it be possible to have a pci vid card running as well and just plug the secondary screen into that? Anyone know of this or any other solution I can use? I really wanna put that 14" of mine to use.

KingJackal
21-07-2002, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by Antallica
Tell me people, is it possible to have dual monitors on my rig? I have a GF2 Ti (oc'ed to teh sh!t... of course :D).

Would it be possible to have a pci vid card running as well and just plug the secondary screen into that? Anyone know of this or any other solution I can use? I really wanna put that 14" of mine to use.

Yes - depending on your OS.....
;)

Win 98 SE/ME/2k/XP Pro/Linux(anything)/Unix
Yes.

Win 3.11/XP Home!!
No.

Not sure about 98 and 95, never tried.... :confused:

Antallica
21-07-2002, 04:41 PM
XP Home :mad:....... well I'm screwed :(

Gremlin
21-07-2002, 08:18 PM
Win 3.11/XP Home!!

Eh ? you telling me these two screens here are just a figment of my imagination ?

Antallica
21-07-2002, 08:57 PM
Your using Win3.11!!?? :D :p

Nah jokes.... show me the ways Gremlin plz :D

Gremlin
21-07-2002, 09:59 PM
I think KJ may have got confused as Dual Monitor support wasn't originally planned to be in XP Home edition.

Just click on Help and Support on your XP box do a search on multiple monitors

KingJackal
21-07-2002, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by Gremlin
I think KJ may have got confused as Dual Monitor support wasn't originally planned to be in XP Home edition.

Just click on Help and Support on your XP box do a search on multiple monitors

Yeah, sorry - I am confused. It looks like enough people b*tched for long enough that MS decided to change their stance! Which bodes well for you....

Antallica
21-07-2002, 10:23 PM
Well it seems that I can just get a pci card and let XP do the rest...... cheers dude :D :D.

I'll be up and running in no time, if it's as easy as I hope :)

*Oh yeah, what you guys recommend for a secondary vid card? 4mb is ample eh?*

Antallica
22-07-2002, 11:37 PM
So gremlin, how have you got yours set up (AGP & PCI)? I don't wanna go rushing into buyin another vic card untill I know what the story is. I was thinkin just a cruddy 4meg pci would do the job, what u think?.

KingJackal
22-07-2002, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by Antallica
I'll be up and running in no time, if it's as easy as I hope :)

*Oh yeah, what you guys recommend for a secondary vid card? 4mb is ample eh?*

Yeah - it is really easy. And yeah, 4MB is enough if you're using low resolutions. 2MB though and you may have problems getting more than 800x600@16-bit ( seriously ).

Gremlin
23-07-2002, 12:13 AM
I've seen quite a few Matrox Millenium II cards in bargin bins around the place lately for around $30 or so they're a 16Mb card have pretty good 2D performance and make a great 2nd vid card.

Antallica
23-07-2002, 07:30 AM
Well I will just use 800x600x16 on my poor old 14" (that's what gives the best readability).... hey have you ever seen a 14" that can do 1280x1024!!?? (and that actually supports it?) mine does although I wouldn't reccommend tryin read stuff, it's a bit figgley.

I'll get another screen one day (nick off with my mates 15" when I convince them to upgrade :D)

Yeah I have seen a few Matrox's on Trademe, I have a bid down for a 4mb one but I am not in the lead anymore, I might get a 16MB instead. I'll go browse some now.

Cheers Grem & KJ :D... u rock!!

Grrr!!
23-07-2002, 07:55 AM
I have actually seen a 14" monitor which can support 1280x1024. Only at 55Hz though, so it was unsightly, along with the fact that text is barely readable!