What is the best water cooling system?

[Into Eternity]

Hey Ya'll

I am making the jump into the water cooling realm. It will be for a P4 CPU I'm thinking.

What are some of the better water cooling systems for P4's with about a 150+hgertz fsb OC?

SK

[KingJackal]

Originally posted by Into Eternity
What are some of the better water cooling systems for P4's with about a 150+hgertz fsb OC?


I think you mean MHz ( Mega Hertz ).... hgertz, hehee :D

The best watercooling system starts with the best pump - EHEIM.
Styles (http://www.stylespc.com/) is one of the few places that sells them - for anywhere from $110 to $245. I've got the 1048, and it 0wnz!! Seriously - you'll find it hard to find anyone with a bad word to say about EHEIM's.

The best tubing - TYGON.
But it's pricy. If you can buy it in in bulk, maybe $30/m. Alternatively, the next best thing is Silicon hose - which retails ( IE, it's easy to get ) for around $20/m.

The best radiator and the best waterblock.

Unfortunately, I'm one of those DIY blokes that's got a car heatercore for a radiator - so I'm not sure about that. But as for waterblock - one suggestion I'd have is one that's come from a forum member, Stevo ( or at least he WAS :D ):

[H2gO]

yeah
what happended to Stevo

anyone seen him ?

:confused:

[Binky Stunt Cat]

that is one wacked out waterblock....
i thought someone would be nice and mention Toj's Liquid CC (http://www.liquidcc.co.nz/).....avalible from JB @ Styles (www.styplespc.co.nz)

[DiscoStu]

Originally posted by KingJackal


The best watercooling system starts with the best pump - EHEIM.
Styles (http://www.stylespc.com/) is one of the few places that sells them - for anywhere from $110 to $245.

I think you'll find the man is in canada ;)

[mird-OC]

first thing's first:

what's your budget?

watercooling setups (i.e. waterblock+pump+radiator+fans) can vary from $70 (dirt cheap! involves some DIY waterblock creation) to $500 or more.

[Into Eternity]

I did get a chance to see www.liquidcc.co.nz. If I could find a good water block, then the Pump, Rad, and hoses could be found at some local stores here in Canada. Someone had mentioned TYGON tubbing is the best. Would any generic tubbing suffice.

That pic. of the clear plastic block...... was the bottom copper?

Should you always have a fan pointing at the rad? I assume it would help a little. Also do you have to use distilled water, or is there any chemical I should add?

[I.R]

Anti freeze (Glyco... I'll have to check that one oot* though) if you're gonna be ultra cooling that water ;)

* = Candian accent

hehe it's spelt GLYCOL :rolleyes:

[Into Eternity]

So use Glycol if RAD temp. is below freezing? That's elementary.

Can anyone shed some light on Peltier systems? I've soon them integrated into water blocks. But I have no idea how they work exactly. What are they aboot "eh".

Canadian accent?

[I.R]

I forget all the technical stuff...... but a Peltier has two differnet types of metal in it (google it to find the specifics). When a current is passed through it one side becomes cool and the other side becomes hot.... so the cooler you have your hot side the cooler your cooler side gets..... I think..... make sense :confused:

[whetu]

your normal cooling cools the hot side of the peltier, the cold side of the peltier is mated with a "coldplate". As peltiers work best with high pressure on them, they are normally tightly sandwiched between the surface of the cooler (let's just say waterblock) and the coldplate. The coldplate is there because the standard peltier surface is large and the standard cpu die surface is small (however the p4 has a heatspreader so you could maybe do away with the coldplate - but this doesnt compensate for the fact that peltiers perform better with high pressure on them)

look at the pretty picture ;)
http://www.liquidcc.co.nz/IMAGES/CPU002.jpg
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[whetu]

Originally posted by Into Eternity
Someone had mentioned TYGON tubbing is the best. Would any generic tubbing suffice.
yes normal tubing is fine
Should you always have a fan pointing at the rad? I assume it would help a little. Also do you have to use distilled water, or is there any chemical I should add?
its not completely necessary to have a fan on your rad, as natural convection will deal with some of the heat transfer. You will tend to find better performance with faster air moving across the radiator fins though.

you dont *have* to use distilled water, but if you are concerned about disaster, and want to decrease the chance of having a water+electricity afternoon of fun, then yes you can use distilled water. However be aware that once distilled water comes in contact with anything that isnt sterilized, it gets ionized and is no longer pure, and therefore becomes conductive.

So you may as well save your time and just go with tap water + additives