What aircooler?

[Volodkovich]

well fellas, i just got myself a job, and now i have money to buy stuff! Im building up my first pc, which is going to be a OCed AXP1600+. It'll be a new stepping and should (im hoping) do 1900mhz on air. However, i have a problem. What aircooler should i use? I dont want to spend over $90(so i cant get a alpha, or a swiftech big-block), and at the moment im looking at either a Globalwin CAK-II38, or a Volcano 7+....what do u think will be better? The V7+ is cheaper, but will the CAK-II38 let me OC better?

Btw, this is only temporary, and will be basically used for LAN's, when i cant haul my creation there...

[p01s0n_p1e]

slap one of these mofos on and you cant go wrong :Dhttp://www.powerlabs.org/images/heatsink.jpg

[Volodkovich]

hmm, i dont think that'll quite fit. C'mon guys, n e help?

[Wibber]

get a dr thermal and mod it to take sunnon bx $50 all up

[Volodkovich]

will that cool aswell as a V7+ that cost $55? Also, where are u getting dr. thermals that cheap? Ive only seen them at around $60

[Humantuckshop]

I'm using a GlobalWin CAKII-38. I've got no complaints. At the moment I have no case fans and my XP1700+ which is OC'ed to XP2000+ spec (133x12.5 @ 1.85V) is idling on 39 degrees C. :D Well, I've got winamp playing and i'm surfing the interweb (obviously) so there is a slight load.

[Humantuckshop]

Also, i've noticed this HSF refuses to let CPU temp get above 45 degrees C. This HSF roxors. :D

[Wibber]

they were $35 at styles last time I checked
*runs off to check*
hey.. they aren't there anymore... email him, if not I might sell mine

[Bravo]

V7 is the best bet for money (jam a high speed 80mm fan on it ;)).

I'd seriously consider the Alpha 8045 with a 60cfm 80mm fan. They definitely perform.

[_N_]

http://www.dansdata.com/coolercomp.htm

here is a comparison which should help you decide which is best.

Thermaltake Volcano 7+ (full power) is very good performance if you look on the table.

[Volodkovich]

cheerz guys...well the V7+ outperforms a CAK-38...dont the V7+'s have a 70mm fan on them? So bravo r u saying that i should adapt a 80mm for it?

[Volodkovich]

hmmm....or maybe even a 120mm fan :) Bravo - the prob is i cant really afford to spend $130nz for a cooler, when i can get a V7+ for $50, adapt a beefy 120mm onto it, and get good, and probably better performance

[Wibber]

70mm to 80 isn't a hard mod...... its 4 bits of metal and some rubber washers damn it! :rolleyes: :D

[Volodkovich]

phhh....80mm too small - a 120mm mounted on the side of the case, with a shroud going down to the heatsink.

[SecretSquirrel]

I'd love to do that, but I cant find anything suitable/pliable to use as a ducting tube...other than the stuff Whetu uses...

I'd have my 120mm sucking air off my little baby V6Cu+, doing its thang :) Its very nice as is, 20 idle and 30 load...with a death chimney and a cut down 60mm fan. Time to look into this once more...

[Gene]

Cardboard, duct tape and hotglue son... :p ...apparently it's your friend! :D

I made my first duct using thin alluminium sheet bent to shape and held together with duct tape along one corner. With a 120mm fan sucking air out of the case, blowing it through the duct - which was strategically placed over the heatsink - and out the back fan hole. Very quiet and very efficient. My heatsink fins(Volcano2)are alligned horisontally so the air moving through a duct placed over it would flow through the fins.

I'm planning to do the same with my V7+ heatsink on my new machine taking off the fan and shroud to make it lighter. Also thinking I might make it so the 120mm fan sucks air through the side panel instead of the inside of the case. Something I might test with a cardboard side panel first.

DSE and Jaycar sells 300x300x1.5mm alu. sheets that are perfect for the job. I might hotglue one together next to see if it holds. I have rivets but they could obstruct the flow inside the duct.

[Volodkovich]

or u could get thin bronze sheeting, and solder it together. This is what im gonna do as my dad has some bronze sheet i can use. its real thin aswell, so i can bend it without a folder.

[Wibber]

wy not solder the Al?

[Volodkovich]

you cant solder Aluminium with standard solder..i think u need special low-temp stuff, and apparently it doesnt turn out very well....i spose u could epoxy it tho

[Wibber]

oh no! he'd have to go buy a $5 reel of solder! the angst! :D

[Volodkovich]

hmmm, solder is alot more expensive than that man...like $30 for normal stuff, so its prolly pretty expensive for the alu stuff

[Wibber]

wha? is that solder with gold in it or do you just shop at dick smith? :) I haven't paid for solder ever, so really I wouldn't know, but I assumed it was cheap as people keep giving me reels, so it can't be that expensive

[Volodkovich]

heh...thats wat my dad said when i asked how much solder costs...he went "ive never bought the stuff, ive always been givin it".

Well, that was for a big-ass roll...there aint no point in buying a tiny bit, he mite want to make more shrouds!
well, thats wat im doing, im gonna knab the V7+ off my mate when he goes watercooling, and shroud a big-ass 120mm onto it...

[SecretSquirrel]

If I made a temp duct out of tin foil, I'd have to be very vigilante as to what it touches, right? As in, it would have to be set pretty damn permanently so it didnt ever brush the mobo...

[Gene]

Yeah 60/40 lead solder is like $40/kg or so... D$E sells it for around $15 or so for 200g. The little clear tube coil dispenser is really nice to have too. Lead is pretty expensive stuff. I have the gear to braze and silversolder too <-- now that's expensive solder. I was thinking a nice shiny burnished copper duct would be l33t! How about a carbonfibre one? :rolleyes:

But hey... duct tape works! :D Epoxy/Araldite would do the trick too I reckon. Thinking a nice clear acrylic duct lit up would be rather pretty :cool:

[Gene]

Build a quick and nasty test version out of cardboard first... and do be carefull what the final duct touches. The heatsink shroud part of my duct is nicely wrapped in duct tape to insulate that aluminium from anything near the MB even the heatsink itself. The idea for an acrylic duct seems even better now... :D

Also remember a 120mm fan and duct weighs a bit so you'll have to fit a bracket to the case frame to suspend your whole duct assembly. I riveted a 20mm wide alu. bar vertically to the case itself from which the duct is suspended at the fan end. The other side is bolted to the case at the rear casefan vent of course.